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re: Lawyers of the OT: Debating on retaking the Bar Exam
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:44 pm to Tigers1868
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:44 pm to Tigers1868
I’d do it just to have it in the rear view mirror. But that would only be for me. Selfish personal reasons.
Putting that aside, if you have a job that pays well now and takes care of your family then going back and doing it is stupid. Whole point of many going to law school is to get a gig to, shockingly enough, pay the bills and take care of family. If you are sitting pretty money wise what more can you ask for?
Putting that aside, if you have a job that pays well now and takes care of your family then going back and doing it is stupid. Whole point of many going to law school is to get a gig to, shockingly enough, pay the bills and take care of family. If you are sitting pretty money wise what more can you ask for?
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:49 pm to Tigers1868
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It has been over 5 years since law school so there would be a lot to relearn. Hoping it would be like riding a bike.
I would definitely retake it if I were you, but a word of caution as you head into this.
I graduated from law school and took the California bar in 1998. Eight years later, I moved to North Carolina and had to sit for that bar since there was no way for me to be waived in under reciprocity (neither from CA, nor from NY or DC where I had also been admitted in the meantime).
I was SHOCKED at how much my study/memorization/recall skills had deteriorated in the time I had been out of school. It was a lot more work to get to the point that I felt prepared than it had been immediately after law school. I guess those are skills that get rusty with lack of use (not like riding a bike, unfortunately).
So, I'd definitely do it, but maybe go in over-estimating the prep time.
Good luck!
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:53 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Hello OCD friend.
I hope this doesn't come off like a dick
There are apparently practical, advancement reasons why you should take it. And add to that increased viability on the open market should you go elsewhere.
But you went to law school and you didn't pass - isn't that a box you'd like to check? I put no great stock in the legal profession, but having put in the work, I think I'd feel a bit incomplete. And with a kid on the way, finishing one of the biggest undertakings you started in life seems like a good thing to add to your parenting resume.
I'd have to take it for no other reason but I'd absolutely have to FINISH what I started.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:00 pm to Tigers1868
Dude, if you couldn't pass it the first time around when you were just out of law school and everything was fresh in your mind, what makes you think you'll be able to pass it now?
I guess there's no harm in trying again if you want to (other than the wasted study time), but I guess the question is, what will be the benefits to you? Do you plan to start practicing law? Is your current employer going to move you into a general counsel type role that would pay more?
I guess there's no harm in trying again if you want to (other than the wasted study time), but I guess the question is, what will be the benefits to you? Do you plan to start practicing law? Is your current employer going to move you into a general counsel type role that would pay more?
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:01 pm to RT1941
Lot's of great points being made. To answer some questions:
1. I admittingly didn't study as hard as I should have in summer of 2016. I had received a job offer in Labor & Employee Relations and it paid great. That removed a good portion of my desire to study. Not proud of it, but that's what happened. Know a decent amount of people who passed their second time.
2. I make great money now and provide for my family, however it would open up other opportunities inside and outside the company.
3. I currently negotiate contracts and represent our company in discipline related matters up to and through arbitration. My passion is labor relations so I can continue in this field with or without passing the Bar. I do have my JD which has helped significantly in getting job opportunities and with the job itself.
4. I do not plan on practicing law unless it was to move into a General Counsel role with the current company or another.
1. I admittingly didn't study as hard as I should have in summer of 2016. I had received a job offer in Labor & Employee Relations and it paid great. That removed a good portion of my desire to study. Not proud of it, but that's what happened. Know a decent amount of people who passed their second time.
2. I make great money now and provide for my family, however it would open up other opportunities inside and outside the company.
3. I currently negotiate contracts and represent our company in discipline related matters up to and through arbitration. My passion is labor relations so I can continue in this field with or without passing the Bar. I do have my JD which has helped significantly in getting job opportunities and with the job itself.
4. I do not plan on practicing law unless it was to move into a General Counsel role with the current company or another.
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:07 pm to Tigers1868
Just what we need. More lawyers.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:15 pm to Tigers1868
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It would allow me to eventually move into the legal department and the company is very big on continuing education for employees.
but what is their position on masks and vaccines?
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:18 pm to Tigers1868
Man we’re in a similar boat. I graduated 7 years ago, got a great paying project management job in O&G and said “frick the bar” because I was making more and working less than the average junior associate attorney.
Fast forward to present, I work in fintech in the legal department negotiating contracts (among other things) and everyone is pushing me to get barred because it’ll be a solid 20-30% increase in pay. I’m taking in February and started studying a couple of months ago - holy shite the amount of material I’ve forgotten (or never learned) since my days at LSU law is insane. I just purged that garbage straight out of my head. Doesn’t help that I now live and work outside of Louisiana, so all the civil law knowledge is worthless.
I’m nervous as hell because I feel super unprepared and don’t have the dedicated time to study like most fresh law grads - 8 hours per day, 10 weeks straight or whatever. It absolutely sucks, but I’m trying for minimal competency lol.
Fast forward to present, I work in fintech in the legal department negotiating contracts (among other things) and everyone is pushing me to get barred because it’ll be a solid 20-30% increase in pay. I’m taking in February and started studying a couple of months ago - holy shite the amount of material I’ve forgotten (or never learned) since my days at LSU law is insane. I just purged that garbage straight out of my head. Doesn’t help that I now live and work outside of Louisiana, so all the civil law knowledge is worthless.
I’m nervous as hell because I feel super unprepared and don’t have the dedicated time to study like most fresh law grads - 8 hours per day, 10 weeks straight or whatever. It absolutely sucks, but I’m trying for minimal competency lol.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:26 pm to Boring
Haha yeah that is what I am worried about. I'm in my 30's now and have a full time job so won't have near the time I did when I was student. I REALLY enjoy my leisure time so that would be non existent with studying for the Bar. Add to that I am about to have a child, my plan was to really soak up the leisure time I have left.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:30 pm to Tigers1868
What jurisdiction are you taking? Is it a UBE state?
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:30 pm to greenbean
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Mississippi and Louisiana have some lawyers who have passed the bar who borderline retarded.
After all that has been said and done over the years on TD, words of such pure truth and wisdom so as to cast shade upon everything said before do occasionally find their way to the OT.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:32 pm to RT1941
Make sure to put the Barbri prep course on a credit card and have your employer reimburse you for it. When I took the LA bar, the Barbri course was about $3,000. I got 6,000 credit card points instantly.
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:33 pm to Cajun Tifoso
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Mississippi and Louisiana have some lawyers who have passed the bar who borderline retarded.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:41 pm to Tigers1868
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due for our first child in late May
Just factor this in with your studying. Get in as much as you can before the baby arrives, because with a July test date, you're going to be going on weeks with no sleep, even if your wife does most of the night work. You will be very tired.
Other than that, just do it. No time like the present.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:44 pm to Tigers1868
Sounds like you have a good set of circumstances in favor of you taking it. If your employer will pay for a prep course (BarBri, Themis, etc.), then that would be a really good incentive to do it.
A huge factor would be really considering whether you will have the time while also working to truly prep. Being a few years out of law school makes preparing harder. Plus, with those prep courses like I listed above, they schedule some really long days, so that's something to consider.
A huge factor would be really considering whether you will have the time while also working to truly prep. Being a few years out of law school makes preparing harder. Plus, with those prep courses like I listed above, they schedule some really long days, so that's something to consider.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:47 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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prep courses
Some of these are extremely intensive and likewise expensive. BarBri is north of $3000 and you get a ton of materials. I’m going with JDAdvising for like $1000 + some supplemental stuff (AdaptiBar, Critical Pass, Emmanuels).
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:47 pm to texn
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Will your employer pay for a bar review course? I would recommend sitting for the exam only if you sign up for a good review course.
This is critical, you cannot study the pertinent material being 5 years removed from school. Take the course and have them pay for it.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:47 pm to Tigers1868
Of course you should re take it. Why go to law school if you are not going to become a lawyer? You may have missed an opportunity to take it with the relaxed covid rules. They were practically handing out passing grades.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:50 pm to geauxpurple
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Why go to law school if you are not going to become a lawyer?
There are a lot of good non-lawyer jobs to be had with a law degree, especially if you got a worthless undergrad degree. Law schools act like everyone goes there to be a litigator which isn’t true at all; someone who understands legal concepts and knows how to do legal research can be a huge asset in keeping your business out of hot water.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:51 pm to Tigers1868
Grats on the sex and job at Tyson Foods
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