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re: Lawyers of the OT: Debating on retaking the Bar Exam
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:56 pm to Tigers1868
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:56 pm to Tigers1868
SO you didn't take the bar while it was one day and condensed for Covid?
ETA: absolutely why not. You paid all that money and spent all that time going to law school.
ETA: absolutely why not. You paid all that money and spent all that time going to law school.
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 1:57 pm
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:58 pm to Boring
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There are a lot of good non-lawyer jobs to be had with a law degree, especially if you got a worthless undergrad degree. Law schools act like everyone goes there to be a litigator which isn’t true at all; someone who understands legal concepts and knows how to do legal research can be a huge asset in keeping your business out of hot water.
This^. I had an undergrad degree in History. Having my JD has gotten me great job opportunities and helps me actually do my job. I negotiate labor agreements and represent the Company in arbitrations. No way I could do that without my legal experience.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 2:05 pm to BorrisMart
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SO you didn't take the bar while it was one day and condensed for Covid?
I’m praying for some kind of Ultra Mega COVID variant to kick up this winter. I’d love to take it remote or open book.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 3:07 pm to Tigers1868
Sounds like there's no real downside to trying it. Will they pay for a bar prep class too?
Posted on 11/10/21 at 3:12 pm to tgrmeat
I believe that they would pay for the course.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 3:39 pm to Tigers1868
Where did you go to law school?
Posted on 11/10/21 at 4:03 pm to NIH
The bar exam tests minimum competency. If you went to LSU, which is a gloried three year review for the bar, and took a six week bar review course, and still didn't pass it then --- maybe you should ask your company for an on-line MBA, M.Acct, or other certification instead.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 4:04 pm to Tigers1868
Is your employer paying for the prep classes as well?
Posted on 11/10/21 at 4:12 pm to Tigers1868
I’m not sure how you made it all the way through law school and haven’t passed the bar. Absolutely you should
Posted on 11/10/21 at 4:32 pm to Tigers1868
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I graduated law school in 2016 and took the Bar Exam that summer and missed the pass rate by around 5 points or so. I got a really good job(Labor & Employee Relations) with a Fortune 500 company in Arkansas and so never retook the Bar. My current employer is offering to pay for me to retake the Bar next July. Here are some factors at play:
1. I am fully remote so would be able to study/prep during the day.
2. It has been over 5 years since law school so there would be a lot to relearn. Hoping it would be like riding a bike.
3. My wife is due for our first child in late May so this may be my last time to take it for a while. I would have time at home with paternity leave to also study.
Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated!
You couldn't pay me to study and take the BAR exam again, and I've been practicing since 2014. It took 2 months of prep taking it right out of law school. It would take considerably more time that far removed from law school. Sounds like you have a job and family too, which will make it even more difficult. And if you failed it the first time, it's not going to be easier the second time when you haven't been in law school since 2016. I guess whether I'd take it if I were you would depend on what the financial incentives are from your boss. Simply paying the fees for you to take it would be a hard pass. If he was giving you a substantial raise for passing, then sure, give it a shot.
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 11/10/21 at 4:51 pm to Tigers1868
I'm not sure if it's like riding a bike. I don't remember anything that's not in my field besides some basic principles. If you can devote ~4 hrs/day then I say go for it. Make them pay for BarBri and absolutely do what they tell you.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 4:54 pm to Hou_Lawyer
I have taken four different bar exams in my life. It all comes down to the multi-state part. Not sure if that applies to the LA bar or not.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 4:54 pm to Tigers1868
I don’t know why you wouldn’t. You’ve probably learned quiet a bit from your new job that will help. Do it.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 4:58 pm to TimeOutdoors
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I’m not sure how you made it all the way through law school and haven’t passed the bar. Absolutely you should
I only took it once and I mentioned earlier that I received a great job offer that deterred my need to study. Wish I could go back and tell my old self to buckle down.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 5:00 pm to TimeOutdoors
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You’ve probably learned quiet a bit from your new job that will help
shite, the BAR covers so many subjects. I only use maybe 20% of what I learned in law school and for the BAR in my practice. If I didn't litigate, it would be even less. And he won't be learning much that will help him on the BAR working in Labor and Employment. Not sure where he's taking it, but that area of law wasn't even a subject on the BAR in my state (TN) and it's definitely not on the multi-state portion
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 11/10/21 at 5:00 pm to Tigers1868
I took the MA bar 7-8 years after graduating law school. It’s a pain in the arse but you won’t regret doing it.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 5:02 pm to lsufball19
Thanks! Any good LSU bars to watch the game in the Franklin/Nashville area?
Posted on 11/10/21 at 5:06 pm to Tigers1868
I passed the first time, but if I hadn't, I would have taken it again.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 5:24 pm to Tigers1868
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Any good LSU bars to watch the game in the Franklin/Nashville area?
I think the alumni group watches games at the Pastime in Nashville and used to also go to the Crows Nest in Green Hills. It’s been several years since I’ve been
Posted on 11/10/21 at 5:26 pm to NIH
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Where did you go to law school?
He mentioned earlier it was LSU Law School.
Just a point of view from a non-lawyer: since I went to work for my firm 22 years ago, the principals in my firm have pushed me to take four different accreditation exams over the years for a wide range of subjects (and are now pushing me to take a fifth one). The firm pays for the classes, the test fees, all that stuff, and then they pay for the annual required registration fees for each. With a decent amount of study I was able to pass each on the first try. So, now on my business cards, on the company letterhead, and on the resumes in the firm's submittals in going after jobs I have a veritable alphabet soup after my name.
Granted, none of those accreditations are as important in my field as the bar is to the legal field, or the PE is to engineering, or AIA is to architecture, etc. Nor are they as prestigious in the outside world. And I'm sure none of the exams were as HARD as the Bar (though I do know people who FAILED the same exams).
But those accreditations/designations are now THERE, and NEVER will be taken away. I know that they make me more valuable to the company, AND they make me more valuable if I ever decided to (or HAD to) go get a job elsewhere.
So, my advice to you is to take advantage of their offer to pay for it all, take advantage of the time you have now, buckle down and study, and pass that damn bar NOW.
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 5:29 pm
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