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re: Lawmakers advance bill requiring TOPS repayment for students who lose scholarships
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:25 pm to tigafan4life
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:25 pm to tigafan4life
quote:For the GI bill - You only have to pay back what you used for the semester in which you dropped out. You don't have to pay backpay for completed semesters.
I like that. This is the same type of rule for kids who use their parents GI Bill. IF you drop out of fail, you have to pay it back. Gives them a bit of motivation.
That rule would be fine for TOPS. What isn't fine is requiring years of backpay because you had one bad semester.
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 2:28 pm
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Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:26 pm to PP7 for heisman
quote:I will agree with this.
You only have to pay back what you used for the semester in which you dropped out. You don't have to pay backpay for completed semesters.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:27 pm to Salmon
quote:Got it. I didn't read the entire bill, but the notion is just so stupid.
this is one of the exemptions listed
College kids, like everyone else, have shite go wrong in their lives. It's stupid to add such a massive burden for a program like TOPS. Especially considering what the goal of the program is.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:28 pm to fightin tigers
I didn't ask for a vlog post of a foundation that looks suspiciously like an NGO.
I asked for one scholarship example in the state of Louisiana that fits what you are saying.
I don't think there are any.
I asked for one scholarship example in the state of Louisiana that fits what you are saying.
I don't think there are any.
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:29 pm to PP7 for heisman
quote:But the goal is already a failure.
Especially considering what the goal of the program is.
It doesn’t result in retention of graduates.
It just results in a free college education so other states can obtain educated workers.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:30 pm to PP7 for heisman
quote:Welllllllllllll I ain't telling my kid this! I told her if she fails she has to pay it alllll back.
For the GI bill - You only have to pay back what you used for the semester in which you dropped out. You don't have to pay backpay for completed semesters.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:33 pm to extremetigerfanatic
quote:
don't think there are any
Alright. Noted. Disagree with the linked experts on the subject. Doesn't really change my world.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:34 pm to DrrTiger
Change the name to TOPS Student loan with forgiveness if they graduate.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:34 pm to DrrTiger
Free college as long as you maintain a 2.5 GPA is a good deal for the student.
Why should the state subsidize someone's year of partying?
Maybe the threat of repayment would discourage bad behavior.
Why should the state subsidize someone's year of partying?
Maybe the threat of repayment would discourage bad behavior.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:35 pm to tigafan4life
quote:
Welllllllllllll I ain't telling my kid this! I told her if she fails she has to pay it alllll back.
Nice little insurance policy for you. 
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:39 pm to DrrTiger
What if they transfer to another school?
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:57 pm to skullhawk
quote:
Free college as long as you maintain a 2.5 GPA is a good deal for the student
Agreed.
quote:
Why should the state subsidize someone's year of partying?
Not everyone that struggles to maintain a 2.5 GPA has those struggles due to partying. I know a few that had a bad year because they simply could not grasp the material for their chosen career field, they met with an advisor, took the aptitude test, changed majors, and graduated in 5 1/2 years.
Under the old program, they would simply lose their scholarship and have to fund the rest of their education themselves. This program would not require them to backpay the first 2 - 2.5 years, which could make them dropout all together instead of simply switching majors and graduating
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:00 pm to Clames
quote:
Lots of scholarships tied to ongoing academic performance. Lots of things in life are like that, better they learn now.
Continuation of receiving said scholarship, yes. Repayment of scholarship already given?
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:09 pm to DrrTiger
Wrong move. They need to just raise the eligibility requirements. That would eliminate much of the fallout rate from it without sinking kids into debt to pay it back should they lose it for whatever reason
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:12 pm to Scruffy
quote:Honestly, they should just raise the requirements, and payout less money that way.
We need to cut down the number of people who receive TOPS. It needs to be more fine tuned and selective.
But, I’m also not against this legislation or legislation that would require payout if you leave the state within 5 years of graduation.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:13 pm to jdd48
quote:
Bruh that's bullshite.
Nah.
quote:
They've earned it by meeting the requirements
High School really isn't that hard....
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And now you're going to punish the young adult (or more likely their parents) because they did not do well in college?
Don't F off in college and you won't have to repay anyting.....
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:17 pm to Lurky Guy
quote:
I’ve rejected job offers that have similar “clawback” clauses if you leave in the first so many years. One was a $100k penalty for leaving within two years - completely ridiculous notion for a new grad (or a high school grad looking for student loans).
I’ve only heard of this if they give you relocation.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:19 pm to jdd48
quote:
Bruh that's bullshite. They've earned it by meeting the requirements. And now you're going to punish the young adult (or more likely their parents) because they did not do well in college?
If they want to go to college a screw off and not have to worry about paying back the money let them get a student loan like everyone else.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:20 pm to Volvagia
I’ve heard of it for certain certifications, basically if you leave the organization within a year of obtaining the certification you owe the cost back to the organization.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:22 pm to skullhawk
quote:
Why should the state subsidize someone's year of partying?
TBF, this is disingenuous tripe.
While certainly there are those who frick off partying and massively underperform because of it.
But TOPS doesn’t subsidize a penny of it. It doesn’t even come CLOSE to covering 100% of cost of attendance even before stuff like books.
But for TOPS to be claimed as subsidizing partying it would have to at least cover for housing. Which it doesn’t. Not even on campus housing/dorm living. Especially not at the TOPS levels this bill targets. The higher levels that might get some spillover into funding that? Well that’s excempt from the policy anyway.
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 4:16 pm
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