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Posted on 4/14/26 at 1:54 pm to Salmon
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That isn't a scholarship that was rewarded to someone
It was an example of tuition payment. But yes there are scholarships you have to repay if you don't maintain performance.
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 4/14/26 at 1:56 pm to jdd48
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Bruh that's bullshite.
No, what's bullshite is the amount of students who take the scholarship only to drop out before their sophomore year. All of that money is basically being spent for thousands of kids of party for a year. That is bullshite.
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They've earned it by meeting the requirements.
And now they just have to maintain their grades. If they can't, they shouldn't have been in college in the first place.
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And now you're going to punish the young adult (or more likely their parents) because they did not do well in college?
Yes. They either maintain or better their grades enough to pass and graduate or they pay the money back.
No more free rides.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 1:57 pm to N2cars
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Free tuition, but stop SSI now !!1!1!
Carousel!!!
Posted on 4/14/26 at 1:58 pm to Bard
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Yes. They either maintain or better their grades enough to pass and graduate or they pay the money back.
No more free rides.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:01 pm to fightin tigers
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Or leave the state within 5 years?
This is the big one. Military will give you a college scholarship, but they also expect your 4 years after completing school. You should at least have to stay in state for 4 years.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:06 pm to DrrTiger
Next bill these asshats will consider is making you repay wages from a job you get fired from.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:06 pm to PP7 for heisman
quote:Already happening for the VAST majority that accept TOPS.
Sure, I'll just do that an out of state school, and never come back to La.
quote:No.
Do you see how dumb that is?
The government is giving you a loan with no interest that you only have to pay off if you don’t meet the stipulations set.
That is a pretty sweet deal.
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:09 pm to Bard
I get your point, but the whole purpose of these scholarships is to incentivize local in-state students to stay in our state.
The risk to the student and their family is huge - thinking of trying my best and failing, then still owing tens of thousands to the state, would personally scare me away from TOPS and thus nullify its intended purpose.
I’ve rejected job offers that have similar “clawback” clauses if you leave in the first so many years. One was a $100k penalty for leaving within two years - completely ridiculous notion for a new grad (or a high school grad looking for student loans).
I could understand owing back the money for only the semester that you became ineligible as a middle ground on this, but a full payback of all monies is overly punitive and will probably kill TOPS as a resource for in-state students.
The risk to the student and their family is huge - thinking of trying my best and failing, then still owing tens of thousands to the state, would personally scare me away from TOPS and thus nullify its intended purpose.
I’ve rejected job offers that have similar “clawback” clauses if you leave in the first so many years. One was a $100k penalty for leaving within two years - completely ridiculous notion for a new grad (or a high school grad looking for student loans).
I could understand owing back the money for only the semester that you became ineligible as a middle ground on this, but a full payback of all monies is overly punitive and will probably kill TOPS as a resource for in-state students.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:13 pm to fightin tigers
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But yes there are scholarships you have to repay if you don't maintain performance.
I don't believe you. Name one.
Specifically one in La.
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:14 pm to DrrTiger
Athletes should have to repay their scholarships if they dont win.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:14 pm to fightin tigers
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It was an example of tuition payment.
I'm aware. But one is a reward for achievement.
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But yes there are scholarships you have to repay if you don't maintain performance.
I don't deny that they exist. But I don't believe they are very common.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:17 pm to Scruffy
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Already happening for the VAST majority that accept TOPS.
Do you have data on this?
In 2022, 75% of LA college students stayed in state after graduation.
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:19 pm to extremetigerfanatic
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:19 pm to jdd48
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Bruh that's bullshite. They've earned it by meeting the requirements. And now you're going to punish the young adult (or more likely their parents) because they did not do well in college?
What’s wrong with the concept of paying the money back if you don’t continue to meet standards?
Meet standards, you aren’t saddled with excessive student loans.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:21 pm to DrrTiger
quote:I like that. This is the same type of rule for kids who use their parents GI Bill. IF you drop out of fail, you have to pay it back. Gives them a bit of motivation.
Lawmakers advance bill requiring TOPS repayment for students who lose scholarships
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:22 pm to Salmon
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But I don't believe they are very common.
I don't think they are very common either.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:23 pm to Scruffy
quote:But that's not what they're doing.
The government is giving you a loan with no interest that you only have to pay off if you don’t meet the stipulations set.
They're giving you a performance based grant. If you fall below performance standards set forth in the terms of the grant, you should absolutely lose it.
In no world should you have to repay the grant because you failed to meet future standards.
What happens if you lose TOPS for something out of the ordinary like a family member dying? Or if you sustain a serious injury and are forced to take less than the minimum required credits for TOPS(something that happened to someone I know)? Or you're simply an extremely ambitious student that got in a little over their head with hard classed and end up with a 2.9 GPA?
You're going to slam the (already overburdened) court system with appeals of default judgments. It's going to slow down an already slowed down state. Not only that, but you're going to severely limit and hinder students who want to do more.
Imagine being a senior. You've been on TOPS for 3 years and 11 months, and are one final away from graduating. You're already extremely stressed and have enough bullshite to deal with between family, job applications and interviews, and other general life stuff. You know that, if you fail this test, you are going to have to pay back $50k plus to the state (who won't spend it properly) and start your post graduate life in a MASSIVE hole. What do you think that would do to a person?
Why would you go to LSU and accept TOPS if you knew that, due to any number of circumstances, you could end up having your wages garnished at 21? It's a moronic idea.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:23 pm to Salmon
quote:Quick Google search says that LA is a net exporter of college grads after 5 years post-graduation, with upwards of 50+% leaving for other states.
In 2022, 75% of LA college students stayed in state after graduation.
TOPS, as it currently exists, is not resulting in a retention of young college graduates.
It isn’t working already.
We need to cut down the number of people who receive TOPS. It needs to be more fine tuned and selective.
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 4/14/26 at 2:25 pm to PP7 for heisman
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What happens if you lose TOPS for something out of the ordinary like a family member dying? Or if you sustain a serious injury and are forced to take less than the minimum required credits for TOPS(something that happened to someone I know)?
this is one of the exemptions listed
but you are right, with all the exemptions, people will file for these exemptions and challenges and clog the system
just raise the standards
this shouldn't be that complicated
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