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re: Lawmakers advance bill requiring TOPS repayment for students who lose scholarships
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:23 pm to Epic Cajun
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:23 pm to Epic Cajun
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I’ve heard of it for certain certifications, basically if you leave the organization within a year of obtaining the certification you owe the cost back to the organization.
Well yeah. He made it sound it was triggered just by being hired though.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:25 pm to Volvagia
Man, a lot of people with children flunking out of community college crying in this thread.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:26 pm to jdd48
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Bruh that's bullshite
I agree. If they screw up, the scholarship is gone. That’s fair.
But to expect a high school graduate who may not graduate college, to pay back a “loan” - presumably with interest is harsh.
Are the LSU athletes expected to payback NIL if they don’t play? I think loss of the scholarship is plenty.
Seems like a way to kick someone when they are down
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:27 pm to fightin tigers
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They lost it because they didn't meet the requirements
If someone gets fired or quits their job, should that person be expected to pay back their earned wages to that company?
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:30 pm to JTM72
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If someone gets fired or quits their job, should that person be expected to pay back their earned wages to that company?
If they took the money in exchange for doing a service.
If a contractor takes money to repave a road and then doesn't should they have to give the money back?
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:43 pm to DrrTiger
I prefer that the first semester be covered by the student, and then reimbursed by TOPS.
If they fail out…no reimbursement.
TOPS would have a limited time to reimburse those that meet the requirements though. Then the reimbursement could be used to pay for the next semester.
If they graduate in a timely manner, then they would receive their final reimbursement after graduation.
That’s just me though.
If they fail out…no reimbursement.
TOPS would have a limited time to reimburse those that meet the requirements though. Then the reimbursement could be used to pay for the next semester.
If they graduate in a timely manner, then they would receive their final reimbursement after graduation.
That’s just me though.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:44 pm to fightin tigers
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If a contractor takes money to repave a road and then doesn't should they have to give the money back?
Is TOPS not a REWARD for meeting certain requirements, aka work that has already been completed? I get that TOPS covers the upcoming semester, however it is a reward given to the student based off the work they did in the previous semester. Or am I wrong on that? That's just how i see it.
Funny you say that, contractors get paid for shite work, and incomplete work all the time. Particularly in Louisiana.
I think of it more like a bonus an employer would give, based off quartly/yearly etc.. performance. If that person puts in their 2 weeks the day after they get their bonus, should they have to pay it back?
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:49 pm to fightin tigers
quote:In this scenario, the service has already been done. They've already earned TOPS.
If they took the money in exchange for doing a service.
If a contractor takes money to repave a road and then doesn't should they have to give the money back?
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:55 pm to JTM72
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however it is a reward given to the student based off the work they did in the previous semester. Or am I wrong on that?
Half right. They have to maintain a certain GPA and other criteria.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 3:56 pm to ATrillionaire
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, the service has already been done. They've already earned TOPS
That mentality is what causes the problem.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:02 pm to DrrTiger
How dare someone suggests holding these babies accountable.
This be recently realized GPA in La public schools don’t mean much.
This be recently realized GPA in La public schools don’t mean much.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:07 pm to White Bear
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How dare someone suggests holding these babies accountable.
You have to realize most people here are visualizing their kids dropping out and being burdened with the debt and not seeing this as a big socialism program funding kids who didn't have parents properly saving for college.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:09 pm to DrrTiger
Does anyone know the data for kids who lose TOPS but still stick it out and graduate (work their way through school, take out loans, whatever)? I knew quite a few folks in this category. Most of them are still in Louisiana, I think, but of course that is just anecdotal.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:10 pm to fightin tigers
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That mentality is what causes the problem
I agree. Logic often causes problems.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:19 pm to White Bear
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How dare someone suggests holding these babies accountable.
How is losing the scholarship not holding them accountable? No one is crying about that.
They are crying about a bullshite policy that’ll throw 20k+ of debt on someone at a snap of a finger unless you fit an exclusion list a mile long and half of it vaguely put that will obviously be fairly applied because LA government is known for its fair and rational decision making.
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:20 pm to Volvagia
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They are crying about a bullshite policy that’ll throw 20k+ of debt on someone
TOPS is part of the cause of this astronomical increase.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:21 pm to jdd48
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Bruh that's bullshite. They've earned it by meeting the requirements. And now you're going to punish the young adult (or more likely their parents) because they did not do well in college?
This guy definitely lost TOPS or had a kid who lost TOPS. Tell me I’m wrong.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:26 pm to JTM72
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Is TOPS not a REWARD
Louisiana is addicted to entitlement to government (taxpayer) money. This is why nothing will never change, because the voters like you never do.
Perform or don't. Students have a choice, and have been made aware of the consequences.
Posted on 4/14/26 at 4:27 pm to fightin tigers
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TOPS is part of the cause of this astronomical increase.
LSU tuition is actually cheaper than many other state colleges nationally, and TOPS is the reason. Tuition increases rarely get approved because it’ll immediately be a burden on the state budget. It’s why LSU backdoors so much of their tuition through fees: because they don’t need the legislature to approve it and baseline TOPS doesn’t cover it.
It’s a complex topic but the deeper cause of the general increase of tuition is that many states have balanced budget amendments. But huge swaths of the budget are also protected, and state schools are one of a handful of elements that aren’t.
So they get a disproportionate amount of the cuts, compared to social programs. So the state funding needs to get replaced. This is a nationwide trend, not exclusively Louisiana.
This post was edited on 4/14/26 at 4:28 pm
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