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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 4/23/22 at 7:32 am to WeeWee
Posted on 4/23/22 at 7:32 am to WeeWee
The tank is dead
Interesting article regarding the viability of the tank on the modern battlefield in light of the success Ukraine has enjoyed with javelins and drones.
Interesting article regarding the viability of the tank on the modern battlefield in light of the success Ukraine has enjoyed with javelins and drones.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 9:17 am to Dr RC
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I'm not surprised. Modi is authoritarian as all get out. He's having people arrested just for criticizing him.
He definitely is an authoritarian. He's going to revive the tumultuous 70's and 80's in India if he keeps going.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 9:41 am to Athanatos
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Interesting article regarding the viability of the tank on the modern battlefield in light of the success Ukraine has enjoyed with javelins and drones.
The tank is not dead. The Javelin and other ATGMs like it that use the Top Attack method just the newest advancement in the armor vs anti-armor race which has been going on since long before tanks were first used on the battlefield. The Israeli's developed the Trophy Active Protective System which gives tanks 360 degree protection and protects from top attacks. The Russians decided to go cheap and just add slat armor to the top of tanks (aka: cope Cages or RPG cages) instead of modifying their Afganit and Arena APS to protect their tanks from top attacks. The Russians are also still using T72s (the T90 is just as advanced version of the T72) and the world saw how poorly the T72s performed in the Gulf War back in 1991. Despite this poor perfomance the Russians did not change how the ammunition was stored in the T72/T90, did not add an additional armor other than adding some ERA blocks to the front and sides of the tank. The Russians tried to explain it away by saying that they had supplied Iraq with the "export versions" of T72s and their domestic version was much better.
Plus one of the main jobs of mechanized infantry is to keep the enemy from getting close enough to kill tanks with ATGMs. However, the Russians forgot to train their soldiers how to do that. Instead it looks like they think the main job of mechanized infantry is to ride on top of APCs and tanks in order to look cool before they kill and rape civilians.
This post was edited on 4/23/22 at 9:53 am
Posted on 4/23/22 at 9:46 am to LSUCanFAN
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So Ukraine is more than holding their own in the last three days. Weapons are pouring in from old and new sources utilizing new routes and entry points including some from “disputed territories” which is going a long way towards settling some peoples nerves after communiqués by Russia. Also hearing the 1500 in Moldova are “not keen” on starting shite. Crimea is nervous no that’s not the right word Crimea is terrified- think Iraq national guard when America pulled the trigger and went all in. Russian military morale remains rock bottom and desertions and self sabotage and self injury are continuing to play a part. Some kind of command center was blown to shite and even more RU military brass was killed, these are the new General syrian butcher’s guys and intercepts are indicating he is a little perturbed as syrian rebels weren’t equipped the way Ukrainian forces are. I think that Ukrainian morale occilates between huge amounts of pride at what’s been/being accomplished and white hot anger at the atrocities being committed by RU troops. There is obviously more motivation to obliterate RU troops and materials. The Wagner Group folks are getting ambushed and destroyed regularly so it’s not just conscripts taking it on the chin. There is an interesting aspect to this war, Russia by banning all sorts of social media has helped keep their population somewhat in the dark but the whisper campaign from people that have a rudimentary understanding of VPNs and workarounds are fully up to date on how fricked their military situation is. The unintended consequences of seceding the cyber war is only strengthening Ukraine. I think history will show Bucha changed everything. I’m also interested in reports that the number of captured RU troops fell precipitously after Bucha. I mean it was to be expected but retaliation bubbled up and continues to boil.
I want to see those damn Chechens slaughtered like pigs. Wagner Group thugs also.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 9:57 am to AU86
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He has even used many of the same reasons or grievances that Hitler used. Protecting "ethnic" peoples and taking land back that was stolen or rightfully belonged to them.
Why does every conversation turn back to Texas?
Posted on 4/23/22 at 10:04 am to WeeWee
quote:I Google Kherson daily( never heard of it before February) waiting for Ukrainian forces to attempt to take this city back . It seems that they are dug in defensively & are able to make small counter offensives, but when it comes to all out offensives they seem to be lacking. Until they are able to contest/ take Kherson I'm not sold on Ukrainian ability to go on the offensive & push Russia out of its borders.
Yes Ukraine is limiting to the Russian advance to a few kms per day. However, eventually the Ukrainians will have to go on the offensive.
Http://www.thenation.com/article/world/Kherson-ukraine-Russia
Link is an interesting article about how easily Kherson fell. Several bridges were supposed to be destroyed & the area flooded , but it didn't happen. Two generals from the region were fired for treason & the Governor fled.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 10:34 am to LeClerc
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I don’t know dude, I’m hearing that Russia is making advances and has captured some 42 towns and villages.
That’s from the start of the war not the offensive.
Pretty good analysis of the situation.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 11:32 am to WeeWee
For real? Ok, did not know that.
Sláva Ukrayíni!
Sláva Ukrayíni!
Posted on 4/23/22 at 11:58 am to sugar71
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I'm not sold on Ukrainian ability to go on the offensive & push Russia out of its borders.
Realism interferes with irrational exuberance.
It would take a collapse of Russian military capability for Ukraine to expel the Russians entirely. It is certainly possible but not likely.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 12:14 pm to WeeWee
Russian ground forces appear to be wearing life vests as body armor
Zero SAPI plate protection.
Zero SAPI plate protection.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 1:39 pm to AU86
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I want to see those damn Chechens slaughtered like pigs. Wagner Group thugs also.
Don't forget Libyans, Syrians and Russians.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 3:48 pm to Mr Happy
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#Russia is claiming that the #USA is planning to use chemical, biological OR nuclear weapons in #Ukraine in a false flag attack. The claimed goal would be to blame Russia for the attacks. Russia supplies a list of targets that includes #Kyiv, #Kharkiv, #Azovstal or #Zaporizhzhya. LINK
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Russia continues it target list with #Kramatorsk, #Slovyansk and #Kamenskoye. It further states that an incident like this has a “high likelihood” of happening in the near future w the consent and knowledge of the Ukriane govt. these are all large population centers spread throughout Ukraine.
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#Russia states that should this highly likely scenario occur that responsibility will rest exclusively with the #USA. The press release then goes on to note that only the #USA has ever used #nuclearweapons during a conflict.
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The target list even specifies locations and potentially tailored uses, such as covert use in #Azovstal, intentional detonation of a nuclear material storage depot or an incident at the #Russian controlled #Zaporozhye nuclear power plant.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 3:55 pm to StormyMcMan
Seems like Russia is about to go chemical/ nuclear and blame the US somehow.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 4:13 pm to doubleb
Edit: Sorry. Old news report popped up on my news feed and I didn’t realize it was old.
This post was edited on 4/24/22 at 5:45 am
Posted on 4/23/22 at 6:50 pm to doubleb
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Seems like Russia is about to go chemical/ nuclear and blame the US somehow.

Posted on 4/23/22 at 6:54 pm to TBoy
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this morning
You sure about that? If they repeated the March 24 attack, then great. But....
Posted on 4/23/22 at 7:11 pm to sugar71
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but when it comes to all out offensives they seem to be lacking.
Look at what Kiev is asking us for. They need tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, self propelled guns, they’re willing to take towed artillery too.
They’ve been hammered, and even if they have the men, they don’t have the hardware to go on the offensive.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 7:31 pm to Lima Whiskey
Currently they’re training reserves & training on the advanced equipment that keeps pouring in. By the time the Ruskies get their head outta their arse is the east, they’ll be ready to operate at a much higher level. Will they push them completely out? Maybe not, but they’ll definitely push them around bigly. At a certain point, Russia is gonna run low on, hell everything in terms of material.
Gonna be funny as frick when a Tu-95 gets blasted for trying to drop Soviet era iron bombs at low altitude.
Gonna be funny as frick when a Tu-95 gets blasted for trying to drop Soviet era iron bombs at low altitude.
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