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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/18/22 at 11:59 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted by Duke
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 12:07 am to
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it means the American era is over and this is a catastrophe that India, a country that understands China well, is allying with its greatest ally and giving us the finger. This is some serious shite.


India and Russia have long standing ties, including Russia being their main arms dealer. India also needs a whole bunch of energy to keep the economy there growing.

This isnt new or surprising. We need to get closer to India long term but just because theyll trade bad currencies for Russian oil doesnt mean they're getting too cozy with China. There's that whole Tibet dispute.

In other words, chill.

Also I love your twitter source said this was something I wouldnt hear about in the news hours after I read something in the FT about this very thing.
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Posted by SoonerK
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 12:11 am to
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India bought some oil from Russia. Time to pack it in boys, it was a great couple of centuries.


They didn’t do it in dollars. That’s a big deal to anyone that remotely understands international affairs.


Yes, they bought a small amount of oil from Russia because they do not want to alienate them. India loves to play both sides of the fence. End of the American Empire? Can you be more dramatic?
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Posted by TutHillTiger
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 12:17 am to
If OPEC switches from dollars to rubles or yens to price oil, they are in direct “violation” of “the agreement” that we have been under for 50 years and we should damn near or actually take out a few them out.

It would cost everyone in America tons of money and likely end up
causing a long term world wide depression
Posted by Duke
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 12:20 am to
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The petrodollar is key to world stability, and now that’s gone


Buying oil in dollars is still going to be the norm. The dollar is still how yoh buy shite on the global market and will be till we lose a major global conflict.

I mean, if you hate all central bank meddling with the $, you're not going to enjoy what the chinese do with the Yuan. It cant really be a global currency when they dont let it float.

And since China is the only country without widely accepted currency ($, euros, yen, gbp, aussie $ sort of) that actually has the power in the global market to be, what else is to take the place of the western financial plumbing?
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Posted by TutHillTiger
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 12:21 am to
We should respond to bullshite by inviting the Pakistanis to Washington for a summit to discuss selling them billions dollars worth of advanced weapons and state of the art gps targeting systems for their nukes etc.
Business is war but so is war.

I am pretty sure they will get the message. I miss the days when we would just take out the leaders of countries that pissed us off, or do at least a few regime changes a year to keep everyone on their toes.

I used to think it was no unnecessary to be so feared, but maybe I was wrong
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Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 12:33 am to
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You tell me after we cut off Russia from all their finances. It’s dangerous we told the world and our countrymen we can cut them off simply if they do something we despise.

you mean we and the rest of the world who supported us and sanctioned russia themselves
Posted by MSUDawg98
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 1:36 am to
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If OPEC switches from dollars to rubles or yens to price oil, they are in direct “violation” of “the agreement” that we have been under for 50 years and we should damn near or actually take out a few them out.

It would cost everyone in America tons of money and likely end up
causing a long term world wide depression
I'm glad someone else is also actually looking at it from a Macro/Worldwide view. England was a superpower for centuries before losing it in the first half of the 20th century. The people seem to be just fine. I use a VPN to watch newscasts all around the world. The US gets MAYBE 10 minutes a week in a country like Australia.

Until Russia and China take drastic steps to curb carbon emissions the rest of the world is just virtue signaling to each other hoping to win the heart of Greta. The last administration had us on a path to energy independence and a more isolationist country. The parts where this administration is failing is where the past administration was successful. Conversely, I think we would be on more of a neutral footing than playing defense and hiding in a closet...possibly saber rattling (which seemed to get Tubby Rocketman to settle the frick down.)

I've maintained a Pro-Ukraine stance but it's hard to not notice a few things. You have a situation where the 4 horsemen could be at work. You have a lovable President begging the rest of the world to get involved. Nostradamus supposedly predicted Napoleon and Hitler. The thought has come across my mind in recent days that Zelensky could be the wolf in lamb's clothing. I'm not saying he is but rather we should be really thinking that through as we view the situation and our role in it.

News from all sides is being spun and we should try not to get hysterical about shite like Russia selling a small amount of oil at Dollar Tree prices. Objectively formed opinion are easier to develop when you become aware of how the media narrative is manipulating you. The hot war over there is quite similar to the war which has been simmering for the past decade in both parties...right down to Joe Dirt being the innocent civilian caught up in it.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 4:33 am to
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That's not a lot of equipment. The ship is not very large. I suspect there is stuff below decks. I know there are multiple ships but it's gonna take a lot more equipment than that to do any good anywhere. And considering this floated past Japan it's likely going somewhere else and not into the Black Sea. What will the Russians do next?
One long shot possibility is to go the route established in 1943 - berth in Bandar-e-Abbas (Iran) and rail them north. What would the Azerbaijani government do?
Posted by LSUCanFAN
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 5:06 am to
All true.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 5:12 am to
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hope that they got him with a javelin that my tax dollars helped pay for. Would make me feel like I was contributing to the cause
I bought shares in LMT three weeks ago. I view it as my patriotic duty to support Lockheed.
Posted by Eurocat
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 5:28 am to
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So if you’re stupid don’t know what that means, it means the American era is over and this is a catastrophe that India, a country that understands China well, is allying with its greatest ally and giving us the finger. This is some serious shite.



In fact that is not true at all.

Now instead of being alone and trying to be respected world reserve currencies they will combine and be 16 percent of worlds gdp combined.'

USA alone is 25
Euro is about 30
Japanese Yuan about 15
Also add on Canadian Dollar, UK Pound (remember, no longer part of Euro zone), New Zealand and Korea.

The adding of tiny Russia to mid size China (talking size of gdp not population) really does not in any way shape or form mark the end of the dollar. RELAX!

China alon is 15 and now comined the two are 17. Changes nothing.

WORLD GDP BY COUNTRY - See for yourself -
LINK
This post was edited on 3/19/22 at 5:33 am
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 5:53 am to
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I’m just saying if a Tywin Lannister were our President, nothing would piss him off more than this.


Please tell me you are drunk. Did you really just bring GOT into a discussion of real world stuff?
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 6:17 am to
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India has bought oil from Russia in roubles and rupees: Twitter

So if you’re stupid don’t know what that means, it means the American era is over and this is a catastrophe that India, a country that understands China well, is allying with its greatest ally and giving us the finger. This is some serious shite.




India is poor
India needs a lot of energy
Russia, whom India already trades with for various goods, offered a lot of oil at a discount to high market prices.
To my knowledge OPEC nor any of the other major producers have increased production beyond some of the insignificant strategic oil reserve releases.

It’s simple economics and that’s it.
Posted by DabosDynasty
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 6:22 am to
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We should respond to bull shite by inviting the Pakistanis to Washington for a summit to discuss selling them billions dollars worth of advanced weapons and state of the art gps targeting systems for their nukes etc.
Business is war but so is war.

I am pretty sure they will get the message. I miss the days when we would just take out the leaders of countries that pissed us off, or do at least a few regime changes a year to keep everyone on their toes.


Is this a George Bush alter?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 6:33 am to
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them. India loves to play both sides of the fence. End of the American Empire?


Well if he is right it won’t be all bad. Practicing the kama sutra with Russian women sounds like a benefit.
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