re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

What really disturbs me is so many have adopted or believe that Ukraine is full of Nazis. They believe Putin's lies that he has so!d to the Russian people. They have no clue as to the reality or facts of the Maidan Revolution of 2014. They believe that the Ukrainian people had nothing or little to do with getting rid if Putin's stooge Yanukovych. They believe that the CIA was 100% responsible for it. The US did support it but they were not the deciding factor. The Ukrainian people were. They have no clue that Ukraine had been shifting hard to the west even before 2014. They absolutely reject the facts of what that thug Yanukovych was and what he did in regards to lying about signing the trade agreement with the west and then turning around and signing a huge agreement with Putin instead. He then was granted dictatorial powers and brought in Russians from Crimea and used them as police state thugs and snipers who killed many people in the streets. He stole billions from Ukraine. They reject the facts about what Putin did in Crimea and even worse in the Donbass. He came close to losing his power when he lost Ukraine. He had to take Crimea to save himself. Losing Crimea and that naval base would have been the worst strategic disaster for Russia in 100 years. He only invaded the Donbass after Ukraine's new government signed the trade agreement with the west. He granted hundreds of thousands of Russian passports to Donbass citizens and then prevented them from leaving the occupied territory. It was either accept the passports and go to Russia for food or starve. He then could claim that he was protecting "Russian citizens". He used his little green men to invade and called them separatists. He used his Wagner group thugs that was founded by a Neo-Nazi.
Putin has to destabilize Ukraine to prevent it from eventually joining the EU. Putin cannot afford to have a properous, democratic Ukraine on his border.
I will give you an example of how dishonest Putin is and how he cannot be trusted. The Minsk Agreement called for Ukraine to negotiate with the two Donbass regions. Each side would send delegates to the negotiations. Ukraine balked after discovering that the selected delegates from the Donbass weren't even from there. They were from Russia and were actually real Russians citizens pretending that they were from the Donbass region!
You can't trust Putin!!!

There are more Nazis in Huntsville than Ukraine. lol

Maybe Russians are still pissed we got all the smart Nazis after WW2. Operation Paperclip it was called. Basically built NASA and many of our stunk works programs out of it.
Nazi scientists were pleading to come here

Watching Putin’s speech where the feed went out momentarily and was replaced by patriotic music, I told my wife that this is where the coup was supposed to take place. The guy at the studio did his job, but the FSB trigger guys got cold feet.

I am utterly amazed at the vast knowledge The OT on Ukraine and Russia. It is like they were born and raised there.

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And yet another general is killed.

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He actually installed him after the existing government resigned. This stooge had been a diplomat in the Soviet Union and Moscow for years. Putin then sent in Russian troops to protect him. I then saw that Kazakhstan had refused Russia's request for assistance in Ukraine.

Woah!! When I first heard of the Polish proposal this week I thought: yea, that will go no where.

So how does this work with these “peace keeping” forces? Do they go in and just try to maintain the humanitarian side of things and kind of dare Russia to engage them or what?