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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:12 am to notiger1997
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:12 am to notiger1997
Is this board in denial about the gigantic hole that has been punched through the Ukrainian lines in Donbas?
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:29 am to Stidham8
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gigantic hole that has been punched through the Ukrainian lines in Donbas?
Take that picture and zoom out. And zoom out again. And zoom out again. And again. And you’ll see how little progress Russia has made in the last two years relative to their goals. Meanwhile Ukraine just seized that amount of Russian territory I. Kursk in less than a month. Has Kyiv fallen yet?
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:39 am to REG861
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“bat shite crazy PT post of the day?”
in 20 years PhD students will do their dissertations on PT posting trends. It's a treasure trove of raw data straight from the brains of the disaffected.
The Q Thread could support a lifetime of study on mental illness in contemporary blue collar middle aged white males (of which I am one myself).
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:40 am to Stidham8
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gigantic hole that has been punched through the Ukrainian lines in Donbas?
So the Russian army will pour through this hole and accomplish its objectives?
By the way.....what are its objectives?
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:45 am to No Colors
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middle aged
I much prefer how an older duck hunting friend, T R Gambrell of Lake Charles, defined age groups. Middle age begins when you retire. Old age begins when you can no longer get an erection. He wanted me to take him to Beaumont to an all nude bar one night when he was 83, to reminisce due he reached old age at 82. Viagra wasn't on the market yet. Sadly he left us at the age of 84.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:50 am to trinidadtiger
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hundreds of miles from the front
Where is this?
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:56 am to StormyMcMan
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The era of Scholz, Habeck, Berbock and Lindner is coming to its inglorious end. Posterity will remember them as gutless, faded politicians who betrayed their people. And the first nail in their coffin will probably be the elections in the three eastern federal states this September.
Truth. Weak feckless leaders.
The west is full of that type.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:04 am to AU86
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There is no support in NATO for the idea of shooting down Russian missiles over Ukraine, - Defense Minister Kosiniak-Kamysz has said
According to him, there is "a lot of skepticism" among the alliance countries and no state will make such a decision alone.
If the US is not there to do it for them to hell with.it.
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 10:05 am
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:10 am to Stidham8
If Russia has driven a hole in the line, the obvious question is can they take full advantage or will they get bogged down again.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:13 am to REG861
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Take that picture and zoom out. And zoom out again. And zoom out again. And again. And you’ll see how little progress Russia has made in the last two years relative to their goals. Meanwhile Ukraine just seized that amount of Russian territory
Zoom out the maps showing Russian gains. Zoom in the maps showing Ukrainian gains. Got it.
Aren't the Ukrainians supposed to be getting the Russians out of Ukraine?
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:20 am to Stidham8
No one is in denial, but it's too early to tell if the Russian advances in this area will be strategically important.
Remember when you told us a long time ago that the entire Eastern front was collapsing because Russia made some localized gains...we remember.
This is a similar circumstance, so it remains to be seen what the outcome will be. Ukraine obviously isn't as worried about it as you are, or they would be throwing a lot more into defending the area. Russia has struggled with logistics throughout this war. Does Russia have the logistics capability to sustain this breakthrough and build upon it? Time will tell, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Remember when you told us a long time ago that the entire Eastern front was collapsing because Russia made some localized gains...we remember.
This is a similar circumstance, so it remains to be seen what the outcome will be. Ukraine obviously isn't as worried about it as you are, or they would be throwing a lot more into defending the area. Russia has struggled with logistics throughout this war. Does Russia have the logistics capability to sustain this breakthrough and build upon it? Time will tell, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:21 am to Tiger985
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Aren't the Ukrainians supposed to be getting the Russians out of Ukraine?
Yes, and if that involves invading Russia to boost morale, interdict supplies, and make Russia adjust to their invasion then it’s a brilliant move.
And on the flip side, if it weakens Ukrainian defenses, gives ordinary Russians more resolve and causes issues on the existing fronts then it could prove to be a bad move.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:23 am to Chromdome35
The static stage of the war is probably over, the speed of the Russian advance will depend on their reserves and the number of men they have available to exploit it.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:30 am to Lima Whiskey
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The static stage of the war is probably over, the speed of the Russian advance will depend on their reserves and the number of men they have available to exploit it.
Most importantly, they need to have the ability to support it logistically.
Looking at the map Stidham posted, Russia needs to start pushing out the flanks, or it will be in grave danger of getting cut off by Ukraine in some pincher movement.
It is a much smaller salient than the Kursk salient.
ETA: Notice the general path of the offensive follows the railroad running through the region.
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 10:32 am
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:36 am to Lima Whiskey
Whatever happened to all of those French soldiers blowhard Macron was sending to Ukraine?
He is such a fricking loser.
He is such a fricking loser.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:38 am to Lima Whiskey
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The static stage of the war is probably over
Yes, if Ukraine’s flanking actions and Russia’s recent gains allow either side an advantage.
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the speed of the Russian advance will depend on their reserves and the number of men they have available to exploit it.
Yes
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:42 am to Stidham8
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/display.aspx?sp=103102300&s=2&p=101373605#103102300
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The Eastern Front has collapsed and Ukraine is in full retreat.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:48 am to VolSquatch
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Losing Pokrovsk has catastrophic potential for Ukraine largely because of its role in the supply chain.
I have been noticing a trend in this conflict that is different from accustomed to.
Both sides have consistently targeted logistical assets of the other side. The problem is the conflict is by and large a slow plodding one. This telegraphs the targets and allows the side with the logistical asset in peril to make plans to function after the loss of the asset. Very rarely are the assets functioning one day and considered "safe" then the next morning they are not there. Logistical attacks will always cause pain but if they unroll at a glacier pace they don't have near the sting of quick decisive action which Russia seems to be incapable of.
I think it is interesting almost 1,000 days in to watch the people that picked a peak Saban Alabama over Troy coping to accept Troy has a Connor Stalions and a booster club that would make REC blush. While we don't know how much time is on the clock and we don't know what the final score will be Alabama may still have a higher point total at the end but they have already lost.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 11:06 am to AU86
Wait, I thought the French sending soldiers was an epic provocation that would lead to ww3. Now it's bad that they haven't been sent?
Posted on 8/28/24 at 11:58 am to Obtuse1
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While we don't know how much time is on the clock and we don't know what the final score will be Alabama may still have a higher point total at the end but they have already lost.
Yeah, its the people who picked Saban Alabama who are coping in that scenario
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