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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 8/28/24 at 4:12 pm to VolSquatch
Posted on 8/28/24 at 4:12 pm to VolSquatch
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Just close your eyes, ignore things that don't support what you hope will happen, and wish really, really hard and maybe it'll come true.
Said with no self-awareness or sense of irony.
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 4:45 pm to VolSquatch
quote:The question for those who can't and/or won't read is, what happens to extended Ukrainian forces in Russia if Russia takes control of Pokrovsk?
The writing has been on the wall for those willing to read
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 8/28/24 at 5:13 pm to NC_Tigah
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The question for those who can't and/or won't read is, what happens to extended Ukrainian forces in Russia if Russia takes control of Pokrovsk?
Ima go way out on a limb here and guess that they keep fighting.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 5:22 pm to GOP_Tiger
@NOELreports says:
But it's also unquestionably true that the advances have significantly slowed. If Ukraine is unable to take Korenevo, then the northwest section of the salient may ultimately be difficult to hold.
To the west, I still expect the entire Glushkovo District south of the Seim River to be taken by Ukraine. With the bridges blown, the Ukrainians are in no hurry and are happy to hunt Russian vehicles using the pontoons.
Sudzha is completely secure. Ukraine has taken the surrounding areas enough that the city is basically safe from FPVs, which means that Ukraine can put guys on excavators and truly dig in around the city, which they are in fact doing.
So, I feel really confident about Ukraine holding Sudzha for an extended period of time. I think that the Glushkovo district will be very defensible, due to the Seim River. In the center of the salient, though, I wonder how strong the Ukrainian defense can ultimately be.
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A general update on the Kursk region. Yes, the element of surprise has been lost and yes, the Russians have called up reserves, but that does not mean, contrary to what some OSINTers claim, that the AFU is not moving forward. There is still an advance, both north and east and west. Don't believe everything you read.
But it's also unquestionably true that the advances have significantly slowed. If Ukraine is unable to take Korenevo, then the northwest section of the salient may ultimately be difficult to hold.
To the west, I still expect the entire Glushkovo District south of the Seim River to be taken by Ukraine. With the bridges blown, the Ukrainians are in no hurry and are happy to hunt Russian vehicles using the pontoons.
Sudzha is completely secure. Ukraine has taken the surrounding areas enough that the city is basically safe from FPVs, which means that Ukraine can put guys on excavators and truly dig in around the city, which they are in fact doing.
So, I feel really confident about Ukraine holding Sudzha for an extended period of time. I think that the Glushkovo district will be very defensible, due to the Seim River. In the center of the salient, though, I wonder how strong the Ukrainian defense can ultimately be.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 5:42 pm to AU86
The poli board putin bro
Posted on 8/28/24 at 6:19 pm to WestCoastAg
Random tweets
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New explosions have occurred at the atlas oil depot in the rostov region, according to russian media.
The fire is visible from tens of kilometers away.
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On Russian TV, Solovyev and Miheev discuss how the incursion into Kursk is causing "demoralisation among the people" who are losing faith in the Russian authorities' ability to protect them.
As a response, they call for strikes on public gatherings celebrating Independence Day in Ukraine.
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All eyes in Ukraine are on Pokrovsk. The city isn't deserted—there's a constant flow of movement. Some are evacuating, others are arriving to help, and residents are steadily replenishing supplies. The city is tense, preparing for the looming Russian offensive
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 6:28 pm to NC_Tigah
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The question for those who can't and/or won't read is, what happens to extended Ukrainian forces in Russia if Russia takes control of Pokrovsk?
Obtuse 1 pretty much described it already. Slow movement by Russian advance has allowed Ukraine to make alternative transport routes and modes to nearby areas.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 6:31 pm to CitizenK
I just just can't understand how they are gonna resupply long term 100 miles behind the line. Good on them if they can
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 8/28/24 at 6:33 pm to NC_Tigah
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The question for those who can't and/or won't read is, what happens to extended Ukrainian forces in Russia if Russia takes control of Pokrovsk?
I don't follow.....The Ukrainian army forces in Russia are supplied from Poland, to Kiev, to Sumy, and then into the Kursk region. That's like 500 miles from Pokrovsk.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:12 pm to No Colors
Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:16 pm to ticklechain
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I just just can't understand how they are gonna resupply long term 100 miles behind the line. Good on them if they can
In Kursk it's under 30 miles.
There are east-west railroads in Ukraine and 100 miles via highway
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:38 pm to ticklechain
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long term 100 miles behind the line
You do realize the entire ukriane Russian border has been a front line? It's not as hot as the southern one, but it was only 3 months ago Russia moved back across the border in Kharkiv. Ukraine and Russia have routinely had small cross border spats.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:06 pm to StormyMcMan
ISW Update Aug 28
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Key Takeaways:
Multiple reports from Western media indicate that the US government is prohibiting the United Kingdom (UK) from allowing Ukraine to use Storm Shadow missiles to strike military targets in Russia.
Several Russian milbloggers claimed on August 28 that the tempo of Ukrainian attacks in Kursk Oblast has slowed and that Ukrainian forces are now attempting to dig in and hold select areas they recently seized.
Ukrainian forces conducted drone strikes against oil infrastructure in Rostov and Kirov oblasts and reportedly conducted a drone strike against Voronezh Oblast overnight on August 27 to 28.
The prominent Kremlin-linked Rybar Telegram project's continued meetings with Iraqi officials appear to be supporting Iranian-backed Iraqi efforts to gain greater control of their information and media space.
Kremlin newswire TASS will soon open an office in Iran, supporting Moscow's efforts to deepen its partnership with Tehran.
Russia's allies appear to be increasingly restricting their transactions with Russian companies and financial institutions amid ongoing concern about the impact of secondary US sanctions.
The Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) reportedly prevented a terrorist attack in the Republic of Ingushetia on August 28.
Ukrainian forces recently regained positions in the Siversk direction.
Russian forces recently advanced southeast of Kupyansk, within Toretsk, southeast of Pokrovsk, and northeast of Vuhledar.
The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) is reportedly supporting the creation of a new type of combat unit that will specialize in using and countering drones, unmanned systems, and other electronic equipment in occupied Zaporizhia Oblast.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:07 pm to StormyMcMan
Dude I asked when this all began how far it was from the front lines. I was told 100 miles. Not trying to be a geographical expert
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:10 pm to NC_Tigah
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The question for those who can't and/or won't read is, what happens to extended Ukrainian forces in Russia if Russia takes control of Pokrovsk?
Simple. Send in the 93rd, 92nd, or some other crack until that Ukraine uses as a QRF to slow the advance. Then fight the Russians until the city is rubble. Meanwhile Ukrainian engineers will be building makeshift roads from the next staging area up the line to the frontlines. People are acting like Ukraine has spent the last two years fighting, losing a key logistical hub, and then figuring out how to keep fighting.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:19 pm to WeeWee
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:39 pm to StormyMcMan
One wonders what kind of back door understanding the US has with Russia to prohibit Ukraine using long range weapons. I hope we're getting something good out of it. I'd hate to put it down to general fecklessness.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:44 pm to VolSquatch
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Larger gains than what they have been making, like I pointed out in the post WCA replied to
Isn’t it all relative.
But the important thing is what happens next.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:51 pm to doubleb
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If tweet fails to load, click here. That Russian soldier has officially obtained the rank of good ole baw.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:56 pm to NC_Tigah
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The question for those who can't and/or won't read is, what happens to extended Ukrainian forces in Russia if Russia takes control of Pokrovsk?
That question applies to anybody paying attention. What happens to the Ukrainian troops in Kursk if the Ukes on the front don’t hold and Russia is able to break through for once is a big deal.
But if they do hold will Ukraine keep their gains and moreover put pressure on Russian forces on their right flank.
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