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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 8/23/24 at 11:25 am to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/23/24 at 11:25 am to
I don't think that anybody thought that, on day 17 of the Kursk invasion, Ukraine would still be advancing rather easily. But here we are.

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As I have said before, the advances to the west are to be expected, as Ukrainian control of the Glushkovo district south of the Seim River is a fait accompli.

But the new territory to the northeast of Sudzha is critical. Sudzha should now basically be safe from random FPV drones, and it is increasingly able to function as a HQ for the incursion. Without FPVs flying around all the time, Sudzha can be properly fortified. That's the key to holding it for the long term.

EDIT: Kozyrevka is 20 km from Sudzha. If Ukraine can take Belitsa and Giri, they would actually be able to make Sudzha safe from artillery (though not, of course, safe from glide bombs).
This post was edited on 8/23/24 at 11:31 am
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 12:29 pm to
UKR SOF units have roamed freely beyond controlled territory so there is that aspect which could explain this.
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1861 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 12:36 pm to
Can you imagine how many sabotage and espionage units the Ukies have been able to slip into Russia with all the confusion going on in the Russian military.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 12:40 pm to
For almost a week, those Ukrainian spies could simply drive from Ukraine to wherever they wanted to in Russia, posing as Russians fleeing the fighting in the Kursk region.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 1:05 pm to
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Can you imagine how many sabotage and espionage units the Ukies have been able to slip into Russia with all the confusion going on in the Russian military.


Reportedly three entire battalions worth in squad and platoon size
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12293 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 1:20 pm to
Ben Hodges gave a great interview recently and discussed the slow Russian response.

He cited how Putin put the FSB in charge of the situation to make it seem like a response to terrorism.

There is no love lost between the military Generals and the FSB. They aren’t in a hurry to rush their good units away from Donbas to go take orders from the FSB in Kursk.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14807 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

I don't think that anybody thought that, on day 17 of the Kursk invasion, Ukraine would still be advancing rather easily. But here we are.


russias tried and true tactics

1) mass infantry assaults
2) trade land for time
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

I don't think that anybody thought that, on day 17 of the Kursk invasion, Ukraine would still be advancing rather easily. But here we are.


What was the cope on the "invasion" like? I regret missing it.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 2:49 pm to
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What was the cope on the "invasion" like? I regret missing it.



Sadly, BKR's posts seem to have disappeared, as he came back with something like his 5th alter, and I think he got banned again. But they were great -- stuff about how Russia will crush these few Ukrainians right away. I wish people wouldn't report his alters.

This was Lima's reaction: LINK

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It will probably take a couple of weeks at minimum, the balance of forces in Kursk is around 1:1 right now, but the Russians will annihilate these units and push back over the border into Sumy. The Russian advantage in drones, artillery, and air power will do that.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 3:43 pm to
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As the Kursk Raid comes to a predictable conclusion we should ask ourselves what it was the Ukrainians set out to accomplish and whether, in light of those goals, the raid was a success or a failure. Don’t worry I know that no matter how great or how obvious Ukraine’s failure in all levels the idiots here will declare victory. I find that very satisfying and amusing.


Lol superb stuff here from this dude.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13312 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 4:01 pm to
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It will probably take a couple of weeks at minimum, the balance of forces in Kursk is around 1:1 right now, but the Russians will annihilate these units and push back over the border into Sumy.


He did say two weeks at a minimum.....so, you know he can't technically be wrong.

I notice we haven't seen much of SW or OML here lately. They pop in to insult us as slimy war mongering liberal freaks, and then they disappear.
This post was edited on 8/23/24 at 4:02 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 4:03 pm to
Obtuse 1 mentioned going after the engineers first.

LINK
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 4:39 pm to
Presidential drawdown of $125 million today. It's mostly the usual ammo:

Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 4:59 pm to
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I notice we haven't seen much of SW or OML here lately.



we all died in a nuclear exchange

why would they show up to insult ash?
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 5:02 pm to
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24854 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 5:18 pm to
Good map, thanks!
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 6:45 pm to
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Are you scumbags beating off to Kinzinger’s speech right now?


I didn’t watch a single second of the DNC convention but apparently you did.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 6:57 pm to
Ukraine is now firing more and more of their own cruise missiles, to greater and greater effect.

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Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 6:58 pm to
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I didn’t watch a single second of the DNC convention but apparently you did.


He was drinking Diet Coke and eating Chee Wees with his drawers at his ankles.
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