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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:45 pm to
Posted by Keltic Tiger
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Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:45 pm to
Watched a couple of videos of the night life in Moscow. Obviously a sort of higher class .....strictly going by their dress..... than the West's image of Russians. Several interviews all repeated the same story line about the war: "we're not bothered by it here. We live a good life & are happy." Another put it this way: " The rural areas are hit the hardest by the drafts".
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:51 pm to
Putin is trying like hell not to inconvenience the elites. Problem is he's tapped out all the other sources of manpower. If this keeps up they're next.
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 8/13/24 at 11:25 pm to
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Whoa, whoa, whoa! Our military will tell you how deep and wide you've been penetrated, not for you to say


Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 1:37 am to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 4:20 am to
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All of that is a lot easier if Ukraine can set up a true logistics base inside the salient. Sudzha will have to do for that, but it's at the eastern edge of the salient and Ukraine doesn't fully control the eastern approaches to the town. The Psel River is a natural barrier, but Ukraine would ideally like to force Russia to expend a lot of combat power just getting to the river.

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But, right now, it looks like Ukraine is running and is going to have to run all the logistics of the operation from Ukraine. Bringing every vehicle back to Ukraine after every mission is not sustainable for the long term.


Great news about what I wrote about last night:

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Taking the areas east of Sudzha does indeed allow Sudzha to be set up as a logistics center. Sudzha itself is now secure enough that Ukrainian TV stations are now doing reports from there.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 4:27 am to
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Overnight and this morning explosions were audible at 3 important Russian airbases: Voronezh(aka Baltimor), Borisoglebsk(also Voronezh region) and Savasleyka, Nizhniy Novgorod region


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Russian milblogger Fighterbomber says:

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“At night, the hohols attacked three of our airfields. Effectively on some of them. Unfortunately, but naturally.

The problem is the same. The further the airfield is from the frontline, the more peaceful life there is. Well, and if covering a military airfield with one or two Pantsir air defense systems, you can only hope for a chance. Actually, many people hope for it.”
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 4:36 am to
German reporter, on the scene: LINK

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Out of the 3 scenarios that military experts consider realistic (expanding further, holding, retreating completely), all men I spoke to were in clear favor of the 1st one: Expanding a bit more, then holding. One said: It is an amazing feeling to finally have enough munition. 6/n

Working on Russian territory brings new challenges, especially in the sphere of communication. Starlink doesn’t work. The Ukrainians can use radios (or even Russian sim cards), but it makes them trackable. This leads to a limited knowledge of the territory ahead. 7/n

Now logistics is key. If the aim is to hold territory, Ukrainian soldiers need to set up supply lines and ensure safe ways for the evacuation of material & men. Currently, the problems with communication and surveillance are standing in the way. 8/n

This post was edited on 8/14/24 at 4:37 am
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 4:48 am to
But don't worry, all those reports are just evil western propaganda:

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Commander of "Akhmat" unit, Apti Alaudinov, said this morning that the Armed Forces of Ukraine had planned to capture the Kursk nuclear power plant by August 11 as part of their operation in the Kursk region, involving over 11,000 Ukrainian troops.

However, Alaudinov stated that the AFU failed to achieve their objective, with all available resources being expended in the attempt. He further noted that most of the equipment sent toward the Kursk area has already been destroyed.
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Alaudinov called Syrsky a turkey and said Zelensky is gay.


LINK
This post was edited on 8/14/24 at 4:49 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 5:47 am to
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This is why Russia will lose
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 6:34 am to
Every single day, I read about how Russia is finally putting a lot of reinforcements into Kursk, and now they're going to get serious about stopping the Ukrainian advances.

And then, I realize that Syrskyi is still putting additional troops into the area faster than Russia is, and the expanding circumference of the salient just makes the Russians get even more spread out.

It's clear to me now that Ukraine is really going for it. The are absolutely going to create a large salient that they can and will hold.

They're going to take Korenevo in the next week and use it to expand the salient significantly to the west. They're going to take Giri at the eastern edge of the salient, and then what happens next there depends on what happens with the bridge over the Psel River, but it will open up lots of land to the east either way.
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 6:42 am to
You think Ukraine has the resources to make a move on Belgorod ? That appears to be the location for a major rail hub?
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 6:47 am to
Ukraine hits 4 Russian airbases in largest such attack, source says

by Martin Fornusek August 14, 2024 2:20 PM

Ukrainian drones hit four Russian airbases overnight on Aug. 14 in the largest attack on airfields in the war, a source in the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) told the Kyiv Independent.

Earlier the same day, Russia claimed it had downed over 110 Ukrainian drones in a massive attack, with local Telegram channels reporting explosions at the Savasleyka, Borisoglebsk, and Baltimore airbases.

The SBU confirmed the attacks against the three aforementioned airbases and said an airbase in Kursk had also been targeted. Ukraine launched an incursion into Kursk Oblast last week, marking the first instance of Ukrainian regular troops operating on Russian soil during the war.

The operation was carried out by the SBU in cooperation with the Air Force, Special Operation Forces, Unmanned Systems Forces, and military intelligence agency (HUR), the source revealed to the Kyiv Independent.

The goal of the attack was to prevent Russia from using the airbases to strike Ukrainian military positions and settlements with KAB bombs.

Russian Telegram changes reported 10 explosions at the Savasleyka airbase in Nizhnyi Novgorod Oblast, which hosts the Kinzhal missile carrier, MiG-31K.

The village of Savasleyka is located some 650 kilometers (403 miles) from the border with Ukraine, while Baltimore and Borisoglebsk in Voronezh Oblast lie 180 and 260 kilometers (110 and 160 miles) from the Ukrainian border, respectively.

The Kursk airfield, also known as Khalino Airbase, hosts MiG-29 fighter jets and lies around 95 kilometers (60 miles) from Ukraine.

The consequences of the attacks are being determined, the source added.

The Kyiv Independent
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 6:59 am to
Polish Prosecutor's Office reports that suspect in blowing up Nord Stream leaves for Ukraine

Ivanna Kostina, OLEKSANDR SHUMILIN — Wednesday, 14 August 2024, 13:47

The Ukrainian diver, who is suspected in Germany of being involved in blowing up the Nord Stream gas pipeline, left Poland for Ukraine at the beginning of July.

Source: Anna Adamiak, the spokeswoman of the Prosecutor General of Poland, in a comment for Onet, as reported by European Pravda

Details: The Polish Prosecutor's Office confirms that a European Arrest Warrant (EAW) has been obtained from the German side in this case. However, the Polish services did not find the suspect at his likely place of residence.

"The man crossed the Polish-Ukrainian border at the beginning of July," Anna Adamiak said.

She added that Germany only issued a warrant for the diver's arrest, but he was not in the database of wanted persons used by the Border Service, which means that the German side did not enter his data there. As a result, he was not detained by Polish border guards.

Earlier, the German Spiegel reported that the Ukrainian, whom Germany was going to arrest in Poland for participating in the blowing up of the Nord Stream gas pipeline, left Polish territory because he was probably warned about the arrest.

On Wednesday, several German media, including ARD, Süddeutsche Zeitung (SZ) and Die Zeit, reported that in early June, Attorney General Rommel issued the first arrest warrant for the main suspect, the Ukrainian diving instructor.

The Federal Prosecutor's Office of Germany does not comment on media reports regarding the issuance of a warrant, which provides for the arrest of the Ukrainian citizen in connection with the damage done to the Nord Stream.

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 7:53 am to
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The Ukrainian diver, who is suspected in Germany of being involved in blowing up the Nord Stream gas pipeline, left Poland for Ukraine at the beginning of July.


His name? Jason Bourne.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 7:59 am to
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The Ukrainian diver, who is suspected in Germany of being involved in blowing up the Nord Stream gas pipeline, left Poland for Ukraine at the beginning of July.



Someone should direct the Germans to this thread, where they will quickly find out from the real 'experts' that it was definitely the Russians who did it
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 8:06 am to
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Attorney General Rommel



Not sure how I feel about there being a high-ranking Rommel during European tensions.
This post was edited on 8/14/24 at 8:07 am
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 8:40 am to
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incredible amount of land taken. Incredible? It’s a grain of sand.


Russia suffered hundreds of casualties and much more equipment loses in the entire month of June to take about half as much territory away from Ukraine.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 8:54 am to
Another Su-34 shot out of the sky over Kursk.

LINK
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:19 am to
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You think Ukraine has the resources to make a move on Belgorod ? That appears to be the location for a major rail hub?


Yes Belgorod is a major rail hub for the Russian invasion of Ukraine. However, the main rail line into Belgorod runs through the Kursk oblast in between Sudzha and Mirnyi. Destroying or capturing the Russian supplies in Belgorod would be nice and a significant victory for Ukraine, but Ukraine may have already or is very close to cutting the rail line in the Kursk oblast.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:27 am to
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The Ukrainian diver, who is suspected in Germany of being involved in blowing up the Nord Stream gas pipeline, left Poland for Ukraine at the beginning of July.



Russia invaded Ukraine. Destroying Russia's stuff is legit war action.
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