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Posted on 8/13/24 at 4:39 pm to Penrod
Thanks for the clarification. There still should have been more of an explosion if filled with natural gas.
FTR, my experience is more dismantling/demolishing compression stations, in 1980s with integral compressors.
FTR, my experience is more dismantling/demolishing compression stations, in 1980s with integral compressors.
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Posted on 8/13/24 at 5:56 pm to CitizenK
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Ukrainians are some weird people who just do not give a shite. That is one of the reasons why I love them crazy bass turds.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 6:21 pm to VolSquatch
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My fear remains that Ukraine is going to fall short of taking territory that it can defend for the long term.
Even trying to hold it seems like a gaffe unless there are more moves to come that we don't know about yet, which is possible. Even if Ukraine struck and then completely withdrew that sends a strong message.
Yep. Russians have supported him for 20+ years because they thought he would keep them safe and make Russia strong again. This invasion shatters that and is going to significantly weaken Putin's standing. Will it weaken it enough that Putin is kicked out of power? Unlikely. Will it weaken it enough that Putin has to fire his cronies who are all "yes men" and replace them with people who will not give him everything he wants? Possible.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 6:31 pm to WeeWee
Ok, the cafe google reviews is a pretty awesome move. That sure is hell wouldn’t be something I had on my mind in a situation like this, but I appreciate the flex.
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Posted on 8/13/24 at 6:48 pm to WeeWee
Did You Hear What Trump Told Putin?
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2024/08/13/did-you-hear-what-trump-told-putin-n2643329
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One of the topics discussed was Russian President Vladimir Putin's invasion into Ukraine. Trump explained how Ukraine was the "apple of his eye," referring to Putin, but always warned him against an invasion. In fact, Trump said he told the leader of the Kremlin there would be consequences for doing so -- consequences Putin didn't want to know about.
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PRESIDENT TRUMP:
I told Putin, "Don't do it!" — and I told him what I'd do if he did.
He said, "No way."
I said, "WAY."
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2024/08/13/did-you-hear-what-trump-told-putin-n2643329
Posted on 8/13/24 at 6:52 pm to notiger1997
Julia Davis
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Sergey Mardan explained Russia's imperial, genocidal attitude towards Ukrainians: the Russian empire sees them as "barbarians," and since they dare to fight back against constant wars all empires must "naturally" wage, Ukraine must be destroyed.
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Sergey Mardan explained Russia's imperial, genocidal attitude towards Ukrainians: the Russian empire sees them as "barbarians," and since they dare to fight back against constant wars all empires must "naturally" wage, Ukraine must be destroyed.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 7:03 pm to Auburn1968
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He said, "No way."
I said, "WAY."
Putin must have pissed himself he was so frightened
Posted on 8/13/24 at 7:23 pm to Auburn1968
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Did You Hear What Trump Told Putin?
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One of the topics discussed was Russian President Vladimir Putin's invasion into Ukraine. Trump explained how Ukraine was the "apple of his eye," referring to Putin, but always warned him against an invasion. In fact, Trump said he told the leader of the Kremlin there would be consequences for doing so -- consequences Putin didn't want to know about.
quote:
PRESIDENT TRUMP:
I told Putin, "Don't do it!" — and I told him what I'd do if he did.
He said, "No way."
I said, "WAY."
Yep I heard that. It sounds like the conversation that Trump and Putin had after the Kerch Straits Incident in 2018.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 7:33 pm to No Colors
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If tweet fails to load, click here. This is why Russia will lose. He refuses to acknowledge that he has lost control of the conflict (if he ever had it) and thinks he can tell pretend he is not weak.
Also prayers sent for the governor of Kursk’s family. He is sure to have slipped off a roof by now.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 7:40 pm to No Colors
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It might buy them another 6 months. Until they can figure out another way to buy themselves another 6 months. Russia can't keep this up forever.
That’s the problem, neither country can really keep it up forever. Ukraine doesn’t have a choice, and good for them for taking the fight to Russia. However, how bad can it reasonably get for Russia before they sit down at the negotiating table and agree to terms that makes Putin look weak?
Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:00 pm to gizmothepug
IYAM the way this ends is Putin exits the scene, thru natural causes or otherwise, and the ensuing power struggle makes further pursuit of the war unfeasible.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:03 pm to gizmothepug
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neither country can really keep it up forever.
The Western countries opposing Russia have economies 35x the GDP of Russia. It's madness to think time is on Russia's side.
Russia has to win this thing. All Ukraine has to do is refuse to lose it. There's a huge difference in the two
Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:38 pm to VolSquatch
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Even trying to hold it seems like a gaffe unless there are more moves to come that we don't know about yet, which is possible. Even if Ukraine struck and then completely withdrew that sends a strong message.
Ukraine definitely needs to put up enough resistance for Russia to flatten the towns it takes back.
Since Russia developed its massive glide bombs, there's really been nothing that Ukraine can do to completely stop Russia. They use the glide bombs to destroy Ukrainian positions from a distance, and then the Ukrainians have to fall back.
The difference in places such as Avdiivka was that they were important enough that Ukraine defended the rubble. Nothing in Kursk is worth defending the rubble. But absolutely make Putin destroy every farmhouse, henhouse, and outhouse in the whole area.
All of that is a lot easier if Ukraine can set up a true logistics base inside the salient. Sudzha will have to do for that, but it's at the eastern edge of the salient and Ukraine doesn't fully control the eastern approaches to the town. The Psel River is a natural barrier, but Ukraine would ideally like to force Russia to expend a lot of combat power just getting to the river.
If Ukraine could take Korenevo at the northwestern edge of the salient, I think that there's already a rail depot in the town that they could easily connect to. But that would require Ukraine to take a lot more territory than I think that they're going to be able to take.
But, right now, it looks like Ukraine is running and is going to have to run all the logistics of the operation from Ukraine. Bringing every vehicle back to Ukraine after every mission is not sustainable for the long term.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:46 pm to GOP_Tiger
Very minor losses for Ukraine for the incredible amount of land taken.
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Posted on 8/13/24 at 9:01 pm to GOP_Tiger
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incredible amount of land taken.
Incredible?
It’s a grain of sand.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 9:06 pm to No Colors
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The Western countries opposing Russia have economies 35x the GDP of Russia. It's madness to think time is on Russia's side.
I understand that, but what I still don’t know after all this time is how far the average citizen of Russia is willing to go. We all know about the fall of USSR and in the grand scheme of things it wasn’t that long ago. Hopefully I’m wrong, but if those people feel truly threatened we know what they can do, and achieve. I’m not saying that mindset is right, but it was just over 30 years ago since they were brought to kneel on the world stage and I still don’t know if that same mindset is still present within the Russian people. Peace is the answer before it truly becomes our problem, but as of now I just don’t see Putin or the Russian people laying down for the West again.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 9:27 pm to CitizenK
ISW Update Aug 13th
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Key Takeaways:
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and other senior Ukrainian officials provided updates about the ongoing Ukrainian incursion into Kursk Oblast and outlined several Ukrainian objectives of the operations in the area.
Russian milbloggers claimed that Ukrainian forces continue to advance in Kursk Oblast amid Russian attempts to stabilize the frontline in the area.
The Russian military command may be pulling select elements of Russian irregular units from Donetsk Oblast to address the Ukrainian incursion in Kursk Oblast.
Russian authorities appear to be largely relying on Russian conscripts, and elements of some regular and irregular military units pulled from less critical sectors of the frontline to address the ongoing Ukrainian incursion, however.
Russian President Vladimir Putin reportedly appointed Russian Presidential Aid Aide Alexei Dyumin to supervise Russia’s “counterterrorism operation” in Kursk Oblast on August 12
Russian officials continue to undermine a long-standing Kremlin information operation that falsely portrays Ukraine as unwilling to engage in legitimate, good-faith negotiations and places the onus for peace negotiations on Ukraine.
Russian authorities fined Telegram and WhatsApp four million rubles ($44,000) each for failing to remove "prohibited" content on August 13.
Russian forces recently advanced near Chasiv Yar and southwest of Donetsk City, and Ukrainian forces recently advanced in the Siversk direction and in western Zaporizhia Oblast.
The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) continues to use the Army-2024 International Military-Technical Forum in Moscow to expand its international defense ties.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:10 pm to gizmothepug
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I just don’t see Putin or the Russian people laying down for the West again
Don't equate Putin with the Russian people. They're related. But only in a pseudo psycho abstraction way.
Americans are considered weird on the global stage because we feel attachment to our "country". That's not a common sentiment.
Like I was having dinner with my friends who are farmers in Alberta. And they were fascinated by American's attachments to The United States of America.
They were like: I would do anything for my wife. I would do anything for my kids. I would do anything for my farm. And I would do almost anything for my neighbors and my community.
But, Canada?
I mean. I wouldn't do a fricking thing for Canada.....what's Canada?
Most people around the world feel the same way.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:44 pm to texag7
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Incredible?
It’s a grain of sand.
Yeah it is a lot of land for the time frame, you weird mouth-breather.
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