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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 8/10/24 at 1:22 pm to Lima Whiskey
Posted on 8/10/24 at 1:22 pm to Lima Whiskey
You truly do swallow All If the Kremlin cum don’t you? Seems to me it’s the Russians getting annihilated or do you choose not look at the photos of the burning convoys of trucks full of dead Russian pigs in the back thanks to Dr. HIMARS and Mr. ATACMS. Is this seriously the taking pint they gave you? That’s all they can come up with? “Everything is fine! Nothing to see here!” I just love how the Russians cry because they got a taste of their own medicine invading another country that DOES NOT BELONG TO IT! UKRAINE IS NOT RUSSIAN AND THEY DO NOT WANT TO BE! Does Russia not have enough land as it is? They just want more. fricking sheep for people who believe whatever their master says like good little pigs.
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Posted on 8/10/24 at 1:28 pm to LSUPilot07
Ukraine Was Biding Its Time
While outside analysts downplayed their chances, the Ukrainians were quietly planning an offensive across the Russian border.
By Phillips Payson O’Brien
Clearly, Kyiv has been biding its time. Its planning for the current offensive took place quietly—and amid many pessimistic assessments of its military prospects by outside analysts and claims that it should save its forces for combat in the Donbas. The weakness of Russian defense is in some sense shocking—but was also completely predictable because of the way Ukraine has been asked to fight. Its allies’ apprehension about taking the war to Russian territory has provided Vladimir Putin with a major asymmetrical advantage. The Russians have been able to send almost all of their troops into Ukraine itself, safe in the knowledge that Ukraine’s own partners were securing Russian territory from attack.
Moscow simply took the U.S. and Germany too much at their word. Russian forces seem to have kept only substandard troops at the border, and the fortifications in the Kursk area have so far presented few problems for the Ukrainians. The lack of Russian internal defenses first became obvious last summer, when the former Putin confidant Yevgeny Prigozhin mutinied and directed an armed force to march toward Moscow, and apparently only small improvements have been made since. “Between countries at war, there is no border, there is only the front,” the Ukrainian analyst Mykola Bielieskov told me. “The Russians have forgotten that—the Ukrainians did not.”
The Atlantic
While outside analysts downplayed their chances, the Ukrainians were quietly planning an offensive across the Russian border.
By Phillips Payson O’Brien
Clearly, Kyiv has been biding its time. Its planning for the current offensive took place quietly—and amid many pessimistic assessments of its military prospects by outside analysts and claims that it should save its forces for combat in the Donbas. The weakness of Russian defense is in some sense shocking—but was also completely predictable because of the way Ukraine has been asked to fight. Its allies’ apprehension about taking the war to Russian territory has provided Vladimir Putin with a major asymmetrical advantage. The Russians have been able to send almost all of their troops into Ukraine itself, safe in the knowledge that Ukraine’s own partners were securing Russian territory from attack.
Moscow simply took the U.S. and Germany too much at their word. Russian forces seem to have kept only substandard troops at the border, and the fortifications in the Kursk area have so far presented few problems for the Ukrainians. The lack of Russian internal defenses first became obvious last summer, when the former Putin confidant Yevgeny Prigozhin mutinied and directed an armed force to march toward Moscow, and apparently only small improvements have been made since. “Between countries at war, there is no border, there is only the front,” the Ukrainian analyst Mykola Bielieskov told me. “The Russians have forgotten that—the Ukrainians did not.”
The Atlantic
Posted on 8/10/24 at 1:28 pm to notiger1997
That whole thread is well worth reading.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:16 pm to Chromdome35
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Ukraine purposely has let the Donbas area appear weak and allow Russia to make gains, and their goal was to suck Russia into this area.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:21 pm to IRespectBrianKelly
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IRespectBrianKelly
Oh joy, you're back.
Hopefully not for long.
This post was edited on 8/10/24 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:24 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The Ukrainians initially had a local advantage in manpower in Kursk, although that’s now equalized. So that’s part of it. The other is, they had DRGs ranging through Kursk creating chaos and the impression of a much deeper penetration.
The depth and amount of ground taken is being reported by RUSSIANS dude. It's YOUR own side,.who is doing the reporting.
Better get your talking points straight.
This post was edited on 8/10/24 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:27 pm to IRespectBrianKelly
I don’’t care if it was on purpose or dumb luck. Right now while the all mighty Russian bear is supposedly wearing down the under manned Ukrainians, significant Ukrainian forces have invaded Russia and so far there is little evidence that Russia is doing much to counter the move or take advantage of the situation.
Like everyone else I’m waiting to see what happens next. This could be a significant turning point, but only time will tell.
Like everyone else I’m waiting to see what happens next. This could be a significant turning point, but only time will tell.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:29 pm to Chromdome35
They don’t have any of our AIM-120D air to air missiles yet so you won’t see the F-16 used on the front line until that happens. They have plenty of AIM-9 Sidewinders and AIM-120B air to air missiles to take care of Russian missiles fired at ground targets in Ukraine as well as plenty of AGM-88 HARM missiles when they do start flying SEAD sorties. The AIM-9 and AIM-120B just don’t have near the range that the AIM-120D has.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:31 pm to LSUPilot07
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:36 pm to Jim Rockford
I cannot find the source again to cite...
UKR hacked and monitored Russian traffic cameras to observe troop movements for this new front.
UKR hacked and monitored Russian traffic cameras to observe troop movements for this new front.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:39 pm to doubleb
Telenko is admittedly is an eternal optimist but he says the objective is to envelope Belgorod. Which would not only destabilize the entire front but disrupt rail traffic and electricity distribution in most of western Russia. In short, a strategic operation with the aim of decisively ending the war.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:49 pm to Chromdome35
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Here is an alternative to your statement:
Awesome. To make your post even more Lima-like, you could add something like:
"Ukraine got F-16s and they have devastated the Russian forces. The impact has been such that Ukraine is quickly taking over all of Russia. From the Prigozhin affair, we know that internal defenses in Russia are essentially non-existent. Ukrainian forces will be knocking on the doors of the Kremlin in a couple of weeks."
Lima used to post halfway-reasonable arguments. Now, he simply posts the stupidest cope possible. It's almost as though he's so depressed that he doesn't really care about doing his job well anymore, but he has to go through the motions to keep the rubles coming -- "quiet quitting."
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:56 pm to Jim Rockford
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In short, a strategic operation with the aim of decisively ending the war.
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”We have only to kick in the door, and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down.”
— Somebody somewhere once.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:57 pm to Jim Rockford
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Jim Rockford
Telenko is admittedly is an eternal optimist but he says the objective is to envelope Belgorod. Which would not only destabilize the entire front but disrupt rail traffic and electricity distribution in most of western Russia. In short, a strategic operation with the aim of decisively ending the war.
The pro-Ukrainian equivalent of Lima.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 3:01 pm to Lima Whiskey
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see Medvedev’s comments
Because Medvedev is normally the voice of reason, but now he is getting a little tired of this shite.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 3:03 pm to Philzilla2k
It nearly did, and Stalin had a lot tighter control than Putin does.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 3:05 pm to GOP_Tiger
Lima's cope is almost as good as ayden's:
The judges can't award Ukraine a perfect 10, because the routine doesn't have a high enough degree of difficulty. Imagine Ukraine striking at the weakest point in the Russian line! If the Ukrainian troops were real men, they'd have the balls to attack Russia at its strongest point. I tell you what -- it's a sign of wokeness, that's what.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. The judges can't award Ukraine a perfect 10, because the routine doesn't have a high enough degree of difficulty. Imagine Ukraine striking at the weakest point in the Russian line! If the Ukrainian troops were real men, they'd have the balls to attack Russia at its strongest point. I tell you what -- it's a sign of wokeness, that's what.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 3:17 pm to Jim Rockford
Good article on the tactical aspects of the Kursk blitz. The future is now.
Part 1: Electronic Blitzkrieg
Part 2: Drone Blitzkrieg
LINK
Part 1: Electronic Blitzkrieg
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The result was that Russian drones, essential to identify targets and guide artillery, as well FPVs, were not able to function. According to WarTranslated’s source, even the feared Lancet loitering munitions were partly affected.
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By concentrating enough jamming resources in the Kursk sector, Ukraine neutralized Russia’s drones, allowing their armor to cross open territory without being destroyed.
Part 2: Drone Blitzkrieg
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But how did they tackle Russian troops dug deep into defensive lines built over the course of two years?
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According to Three, Ukraine filled the skies with its own drones “an incessant barrage of high-precision FPVs, which go in swarms.” OSINT analyst Roy notes that in recent weeks Ukraine has employed powerful drone bombs to blast openings in the overhead cover or Russian trenches and dugouts. Skilled FPV pilots are able to fly though these openings and clear the trench below.
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Once the trenches are cleared, [...] new Ukrainian ranger units quickly moved in to occupy and secure the empty positions, following close behind the drones. Then the radio jammers were brought forward, and the whole process was repeated for the next stage of the advance.
LINK
Posted on 8/10/24 at 3:23 pm to Jim Rockford
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Telenko is admittedly is an eternal optimist but he says the objective is to envelope Belgorod. Which would not only destabilize the entire front but disrupt rail traffic and electricity distribution in most of western Russia. In short, a strategic operation with the aim of decisively ending the war.
That’s very interesting. I think this type of strategy is only successful if Ukraine is confident that Russia does not have enough troops within Belgorod already.
The other strategic asset was the nuclear power plant to the east.
But that’s a large swath of land to try to contain, so I don’t have any idea if that’s possible. Because that would be a large radius, unless they are planning to fall back.
We don’t know how many troops Ukraine is using.
This post was edited on 8/10/24 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 8/10/24 at 3:29 pm to AGGIES
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But that’s a large swath of land to try to contain, so I don’t have any idea if that’s possible.
It's not even remotely possible. This is the flip side of the stupidity of Lima's post.
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