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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 8/10/24 at 10:48 am to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 8/10/24 at 10:48 am to
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Just so y'all know, that two-day-old video was done by a guy speaking Russian with a Ukrainian accent. It's pretty obviously a fake.


It hadme fooled. I thought it was Lima speaking.
This post was edited on 8/10/24 at 10:58 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 8/10/24 at 10:53 am to
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Has anyone wondered yet why there haven't been any videos yet of Ukrainians stealing washing machines and toilets and sending them back home?


Good question.

Maybe Russian “regulars” already stole them, or possibly they never had those luxuries? Or just maybe Ukrainians already have their own.
Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 8/10/24 at 11:04 am to
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Maybe Russian “regulars” already stole them


After raping the women, men and dogs.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 8/10/24 at 11:11 am to
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 11:24 am to
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If negotiations are the only path to the end, now Ukraine has Russian land to exchange for Ukrainian land.


No,

It will probably take a couple of weeks at minimum, the balance of forces in Kursk is around 1:1 right now, but the Russians will annihilate these units and push back over the border into Sumy. The Russian advantage in drones, artillery, and air power will do that.

The Ukrainians did something interesting, they accepted that they were losing the battle of attrition in the Donbas, and gambled (likely everything they had available) on an attack on Kursk. They pulled units from the Donbas for this operation. And they preempted the Russians who were preparing to go over the border themselves.

But the operation doesn’t change the outcome of the war, although it may accelerate its end slightly, the Russians strongly support the war, and the Russian advantage in men and material remains. The attack will have three outcomes, it will further harden the Russian population, see Medvedev’s comments, and it exposes a large number of Ukrainian soldiers and importantly heavy weapons, to destruction at a faster rate. The third is clear from the television clip of Gerasimov and Putin, Putin was very unhappy with him, the Russians saw this coming (there was a big uptitck in airstrikes in Sumy preceding the attack) but they didn’t stop the Ukrainians at the border, and Gerasimov will probably get himself promoted out of his position as a consequence.

Because this is Russian soil the Russian could use conscripts here, which will further increase their manpower advantage, and because it’s Kursk. There’s no political price to pay.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105273 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 11:25 am to
I thought Wargonzo got himself killed a while back.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/10/24 at 11:30 am to
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the balance of forces in Kursk is around 1:1 right now


ROFL. If that were the case, then why is Ukraine taking control of additional villages as we speak?

You should really try to make your absurd fantasies a little bit more believable.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/10/24 at 11:32 am to
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thought Wargonzo got himself killed a while back.


Nah, he was only shot (or maybe shot himself) in the foot.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8589 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 11:37 am to
Reports that another Russian Su-34 has been shot down in Kursk. This really is t Russia’s week. Poor Putin. Maybe he will choke on a dick and this war will end.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42604 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 11:42 am to
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But the operation doesn’t change the outcome of the war, although it may accelerate its end slightly, the Russians strongly support the war, and the Russian advantage in men and material remains.


You always bring up the Russian advantages in men, but then you always excuse Russian losses by telling us Ukraine had more men or an equal force as the Russians.

So you say it’s 1:1. Ukraine just sliced through Russian forces using guys right off the contested front lines. So how are they still holding Russian forced on the front lines and how are they knifing deeper into Russia all at the same time?

It’s not adding up.

If Russian superior numbers can’t take advantage of this situation, I believe your boys are in trouble.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29870 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 12:10 pm to
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I thought Wargonzo got himself killed a while back.


There was a POV video of a guy that looked really similar to gonzo getting got at point blank in the face in a trench, but I don't know if it was ever confirmed to be him.

Found it. NSFL/NSFW, obviously. Wargonzo doppelganger gets it around 1:35 or so - LINK
This post was edited on 8/10/24 at 12:17 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 12:11 pm to
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So you say it’s 1:1. Ukraine just sliced through Russian forces using guys right off the contested front lines. So how are they still holding Russian forced on the front lines and how are they knifing deeper into Russia all at the same time?


The Ukrainians initially had a local advantage in manpower in Kursk, although that’s now equalized. So that’s part of it. The other is, they had DRGs ranging through Kursk creating chaos and the impression of a much deeper penetration. It’s what they did around Lyman in 22. The idea would be to create panic, and Russians would start falling back for fear of being surrounded, even if they weren’t
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13311 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 12:32 pm to
This whole Putin fantasy jerk off is absolutely delicious to read.

"Thw war is over. It's been over!!!"
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 8/10/24 at 12:38 pm to
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Lima Whiskey




Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105273 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 8/10/24 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 12:58 pm to
This is awesome!
I wonder how many Russians officers Putin will have killed for what has happened in the last three days.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8163 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 1:08 pm to
I give you credit for your consistency.

Here is an alternative to your statement:

This attack by Ukraine was not hastily planned; they had been preparing for it for months. The units involved are the strongest and best-equipped in the Ukrainian army.

Ukraine purposely has let the Donbas area appear weak and allow Russia to make gains, and their goal was to suck Russia into this area. This worked; it's what's been happening for the last few months, and we've seen Russia make some gains. Had Ukraine committed that combat power to the Donbas instead, Russia would not have seen what little success it has obtained.

Ukraine launched a surprise attack on Kursk with all that combat power they have kept out of the Donbas against a very weak area of the Russian border. The Ukrainian attack appears to be very large and well-coordinated (I'm sure the US and NATO provided plenty of help in the planning). Russia is responding by pulling combat power out of the Donbas and moving it towards Kursk. This is exactly what Ukraine wants to happen because it takes advantage of all of Russia's weaknesses in operational warfare.

IF, which is a big IF, Ukraine can take Belgorad and a few other strategic transportation points; they can make resupplying for Russia very difficult.

I expect we'll see an attack on the Kerch bridge soon.

This could change the outcome of the war.

When is the last time something really went well for Russia in this war?
This post was edited on 8/10/24 at 1:11 pm
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 1:14 pm to
Have ya'll seen or heard of any instances of the F16's being used yet? What kind of attacks do you think we will see them handling at first?
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8163 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 1:15 pm to
Nothing documented yet that I've seen.

With the limited numbers of F16's they have, I doubt we'll see them risk them over the front providing close air support.
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