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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:00 pm to
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:00 pm to
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Gas prices aren’t going up because the US is too “reliant” on Russia for energy imports. They are going up because the global supply disruption is raising prices of crude oil everywhere - including the price when buying from US producers.


Maybe, but if US cranked up production could it not increase the total amount and thus offset the interruption of the Russia supply to some extent?
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:06 pm to
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They may pretend to care about muh freedoms but they are authoritarian lackeys.. they just want an all powerful state as long as its along their lines.

Several years ago (about 5 or so IIRC) I posted a thread on the OT asking who would be ok with a one party or authoritarian regime as long as it aligned with their goals. Most said no, but there were a few honest posters who said they would be in favor of that.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29109 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:08 pm to
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those of us that actually stay informed.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139059 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:09 pm to
Yeah, there's always a few in every group, but they've been pretty anti-authoritarian for the most part.
Posted by Mr Happy
Member since May 2019
2745 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:12 pm to
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The head of Aeroflot, Mikhail Poluboyarinov, has left his post and probably #Russia as well

Earlier, the head of Pobeda Airlines, Andrei Kalmykov, also left his post. On March 4, he published a farewell letter to the employees

And Airbus and Boeing will no longer service Russian planes.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
8114 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:13 pm to
So you are saying the US producing more oil would not lower the price of Oil? I'm confused on the point you are trying to make, of course oil is a global market. Why does that matter?
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:24 pm to
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Monty Python FTW


Always, but the same album also has "I Like Chinese" which isn't going to fly on this board these days.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:29 pm to
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So you are saying the US producing more oil would not lower the price of Oil? I'm confused on the point you are trying to make, of course oil is a global market. Why does that matter?


This board is full of a bunch of truck nut loving baws who are all about these high oil prices
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:30 pm to
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US cranked up production could it not increase the total amount and thus offset the interruption of the Russia supply to some extent?



Really depends on what type of oil(s) the US produces and what is increased compared to what types of oil(s) Russia produces
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:33 pm to
Retired General Zwack (maybe) said that he has seen reports that Ukrainians have used about 350 Javelin missiles and taken out about 320 Russian vehicles, for around 90% success rate which is about average for Javelins.

I knew they were good but damn. How many thousands can we send?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
34841 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:35 pm to
Maybe it's just me, but I don't want to start producing more US oil.....








....yet. let's burn thru everyone else's oil first. THEN we can crank up our own production.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:39 pm to
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And Airbus and Boeing will no longer service Russian planes.

They've also been locked out of all online maintenance materials and products.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
8114 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:40 pm to
There's certain things you need certain types of oils for, and there's certain refineries for those certain types of oil as well. None of that changes the fact that if we opened up the pipelines to the shale and also opened up drilling season; and pumped as much oil as we could into the market, it would increase global supply and, thus, lower the price of oil and concentration of dependence. I'm pretty sure that's what we want to achieve....seems obvious to me, would also be great for gdp and employment, win win. It really doesnt matter the actual physical geographical history of the gas going in your car. Elon for pres.
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 8:48 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29109 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:58 pm to
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if we opened up the pipelines to the shale and also opened up drilling season; and pumped as much oil as we could into the market, it would increase global supply and, thus, lower the price of oil and concentration of dependence. I'm pretty sure that's what we want to achieve....seems obvious to me.
That might be what you or I or any other consumer of oil products wants to achieve, and that might be what a nation wants to achieve, but that's not the aim of capitalism.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13681 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:59 pm to
So what you’re saying is, if US had more to supply, the prices would be lower.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:02 pm to
Josh Rogin (closest in the media you’ll find to my opinion and mentality) on with Ben Shapiro today: YouTube

EDIT: Sorry, accidentally pushed IMG. But Josh thinks China won’t invade Taiwan until next year due to Xi’s November “election” but I find his insight to be very interesting. He knows more about China than I do, and I don’t say that lightly for another Caucasian.
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 9:15 pm
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:07 pm to
Twitter thread about the Russian Convoy stuck

Interesting thread. The head of the convoy is out of fuel and this guy is saying they’ll run out of food because they can properly refuel to get moving in a significant fashion. Says the Ukrainians have allowed it to be because they have more urgent threats where they are and the convoy is stuck anyway.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32245 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:07 pm to
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They've also been locked out of all online maintenance materials and products.


I wouldn’t put too much emphasis on the. I’m sure someone at the shop printed one out at some point.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:13 pm to
Another one. We almost have enough for a compilation:

@RALee85
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Ukrainian farmer pulling a Russian BTR with his tractor. LINK
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12866 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:16 pm to
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Maybe, but if US cranked up production could it not increase the total amount and thus offset the interruption of the Russia supply to some extent?

Sure. But the US can’t just crank up production at the flick of a switch. US producers don’t sit around with idle capacity the way that national oil companies (particularly OPEC members) do.

Most of the cost to produce a barrel of oil is expended prior to production - meaning drilling, completion, field development, etc. - while the actual operating cost for the completed well is low. So producers in the US don’t just drill new wells and keep them idle waiting for a price increase. Once the well is drilled, they need to maximize production in order to recoup the capital expenditure.

On top of that, in many cases the producer is obligated to start production once the well is completed, per the lease agreement. This is the case for federal leases, though I’m not sure how it works for private leases. The idea is that whoever owns the mineral rights wants their royalties.

There are cases of “drilled but uncompleted” (DUC) wells, where the producer drills a well but doesn’t finish completion - the installation of hardware for production - due to market conditions. But this was more common after the crash in 2014-2015. It costs the producer more in the long run to complete a well at a later date because they have to remobilize a rig.

So the end result is that in order for US production to rise based on price increases, US oil companies have to:
1. Make the financial decision to drill new wells based on their long term market outlook.
2. Physically drill and complete those wells, which takes time before US output increases significantly.

Contrast this with OPEC countries like Saudi Arabia and UAE. Since they are operating as part of a global cartel, they control the price. US producers can’t legally operate in this manner because it’s straight up collusion/price fixing. Since OPEC countries control the price, they have price certainty.

That price certainty allows OPEC to drill excess capacity and keep if offline for “swing production” during times like these. On top of that, it’s much cheaper to drill conventional wells in Saudi Arabia than to drill shake wells in the US. So the swing capacity doesn’t cost them nearly as much as it would for US producers. The fact that OPEC operates in unison also allows them to flood the market and punish US producers if our market share gets too large, as they did in 2014-2015.

Ironically though, OPEC is also in a bind right now because they actually haven’t done a very good job of maintaining that spare capacity post-COVID.

The best the US can really do right now is to utilize the SPR to help stabilize the market - which we have done to some extent but the releases haven’t been that significant.

ETA: Oops, realized I didn’t finish my last sentence.
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 9:41 pm
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