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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:55 pm to
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:55 pm to
Any updates? I haven’t been able to follow much today
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:19 pm to
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Looks like they're starting to place anti-tank obstacles on some streets in Kyiv.

They have them all over Odessa. That looks like a cool city. It would really suck to see it blown to shite.
Posted by Tyga Woods
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:19 pm to
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Any updates? I haven’t been able to follow much today




The Ghost of Grindr has everything under control
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Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:21 pm to
Finally a hero I can get behind
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:22 pm to
How you reckon he came by the name thunderfoot?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:29 pm to
@sentdefender
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There are Unconfirmed reports from sources on the ground that Ukrainian Military Forces have now Fully Retaken the town of Hostomel' just Northwest of Kyiv, this is where a Russian VDV Unit was ambushed and liquidated by Ukrainian Special Forces 2 days ago.


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This is also where Antonov Airport is located, where some of the Most Severe Fighting of the War so far occurred in the first few days of the Invasion.


I think that regardless the outcome of this war we will read books about the battle for Hostomel. What the Russians have thrown at that airfield and the surrounding town is unreal, and the Ukranians have defended it with Special Forces. If we ever get a real, confirmed tally of troops killed there, it will be significant.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:39 pm to
About the convoy:

We've seen reports and articles written that the Ukrainians are picking at it, basically. It is also likely that they have cut off resupply efforts to the convoy. It is pretty clear now that it is stalled due to the blown bridge, maintenance issues, and nearly constant attacks by the UA.

We have focused on "How long do the Ukrainians just let it sit there?" Another question could be, how long will the Russians sit there? If they can't go forward, and their supply line is cut or greatly hindered, when do the Russian troops abandon that convoy? Do they loot the surrounding area? Do they split into smaller groups to scout the area and take the chance of being engaged by the Ukranians?

We've all looked at that convoy as a big problem for the Ukranians, and it is......if it can advance. It has to, eventually, be looked at as a problem for the Russians, I would think.
Posted by BeepNode
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:49 pm to
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It is pretty clear now that it is stalled due to the blown bridge


Armies in the past were able to build makeshift bridges to cross. My grandpa did this in WW2 after he stormed the beaches and moved their way through Europe. The Romans did it 2,000 years ago.

It's possible the convoy is just waiting for other forces to come from other angles and it's also possible that the Russian military is simply incompetent.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 3/5/22 at 12:02 am to
With what we know of Russian maintenance practices, those trucks are all out of gas with flat tires and dead batteries now. It may take weeks or months to clear that route.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 3/5/22 at 12:02 am to
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Armies in the past were able to build makeshift bridges to cross.

Yeah, I know that is the clear option to unfrick the situation. With how unprepared some of this seems, it isn't hard to believe they would drop the ball on it.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 3/5/22 at 12:05 am to
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Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 3/5/22 at 12:10 am to
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I’m remaining calm for this forum

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but shouldn’t there be an immediate emergency election over these two at this point

Dammit.

Posted by Wishnitwas1998
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Posted on 3/5/22 at 12:10 am to
The way you manage to continue to lower the bar is truly impressive
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 3/5/22 at 12:10 am to
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Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 3/5/22 at 12:12 am to
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The way you manage to continue to lower the bar is truly impressive

He goes zero to batshit in like 2.3 seconds.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 3/5/22 at 12:20 am to
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Posted on 3/5/22 at 12:21 am to
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Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 3/5/22 at 12:22 am to
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Armies in the past were able to build makeshift bridges to cross. My grandpa did this in WW2 after he stormed the beaches and moved their way through Europe. The Romans did it 2,000 years ago.


Bridging assets are extremely important when fighting in Europe, though more so farther to the east near the Fulda Gap.


The US Army Engineers use multiple types of bridging assets from "ancient" Bailey bridges to the "modern" M60 based Armored Vehicle Launched Bridge (AVLB) and the newest M1 based Joint Assault Bridge (JAB) which I am not sure is operational yet. The AVLB is capable of spanning a 60' gap in well under 2 minutes and can support MBT traffic.

One thing I noticed in all of the Russian convoy pictures was a distinct lack of engineering assets. This indicates either the assets are not operational or they simply didn't think they would need them. Normally in a combined arms brigade, you will want an entire Combat Engineer battalion for support.

Without knowing the width of the span dropped by the Ukrainians it is impossible to say specifically but a well-planned compliment for the route should have had bridging assets and unless we are talking about hundreds of feet of dropped span it should not impede movement for more than half a day, much less if the span loss was under 50' That is assuming direct and indirect fire targeting the bridge can be suppressed well enough to facilitate the engineers' work.

I almost certainly have not seen all the pictures of the "40 mile convoy" but all the ones I have seen appear to be mainly or solely personnel and logistical resupply type vehicles. I have seen nothing that looks like armored combined arms units.

Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 3/5/22 at 12:29 am to
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Posted by H2O Tiger
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Posted on 3/5/22 at 12:38 am to
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