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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/31/24 at 12:31 am to
Posted by Goonie02
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 12:31 am to
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I can identify a political talk poster after seeing one post here

what does this have to do with the topic at hand? Slava Ukraine

Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 1:45 am to
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No idea what the real number is. But even if it’s half that, it’s still a quarter of a million.


I wouldn’t doubt it, because we all know Russia doesn’t really care about casualties and as long as enough bodies are there to take the places of the dead or severely wounded. That’s why I don’t think this is going to workout for Ukraine, unless the US and others take off the restrictions of what Ukraine can do with the weapons the free world is giving them. No one wants escalation, but it just seems to me a country that was invaded should be able to hit Russian territory with the weapons everyone is providing.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:24 am to
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you cucks still think Ukraine is winning? how embarrassing


Do you think Russia is winning? How? What does a Russian victory look like? When do you expect it?
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:49 am to
ISW Update

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Key Takeaways:

US President Joe Biden reportedly approved a policy change that will permit Ukraine to use US-provided weapons, including GMLRS rockets — but not longer-range ATACMS missiles — to strike within Russian territory near the border with Kharkiv Oblast.

Ukraine's European allies continue to announce their support for allowing Ukraine to use Western-provided weapons to strike military targets in Russia.

Senior Ukrainian military officials reported that Russian forces are transferring forces to northern Kharkiv Oblast from other sectors of the frontline, indicating that the Russian military continues to prioritize efforts to draw and fix Ukrainian forces in northern Kharkiv Oblast.

French officials reportedly may soon announce that France is sending military trainers to Ukraine.

Western countries continue efforts to increase artillery production and procurement for Ukraine.

NATO member states reportedly lack sufficient air defense capabilities to protect members of the Alliance in Central and Eastern Europe in the event of a full-scale attack.

The Russian government approved a package of amendments to the Russian tax code on May 30 that will introduce a progressive income tax scale starting in 2025, marginally placing some of the financial burdens of Russia's long-war effort in Ukraine onto Russia's wealthy elite.

Russian President Vladimir Putin continued efforts to address Russia’s ongoing demographic crisis as part of the “Year of the Family” 2024 domestic policy initiative.

Russian peacekeepers in Moldova's Russian-backed breakaway republic of Transnistria are reportedly conducting a month-long unauthorized inspection of their armored vehicles and may conduct further provocations in the coming months.

Ukrainian forces recently advanced near Vovchansk and Russian forces recently advanced near Chasiv Yar, Avdiivka, and Donetsk City and in east (left) bank Kherson Oblast.

Russia formed a new unnamed airborne (VDV) regiment based in occupied Crimea, which currently operates in the Zaporizhia direction.


Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:53 am to
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Lima Whiskey


FWIW, when Ukraine refers to Russian losses it refers to Wagner, DPR, LPR, other merc groups AND normal Russian military

When Russia references it's losses it only looks at normal Russian military losses and ignores all the rest. Which is kinda why that second quote you shared won't be accurate

ETA: by that I mean he is looking at normal Russian military and is ignoring meat wave assaults conducted by Wagner Prisoner recruited soldiers, for example
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Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:57 am to
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StormyMcMan


Please don't bring facts into s Lima Whiskey post. His fantasy world is too fragile
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20939 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:44 am to
What has happened with the Russian offensive in the north? When it kicked off a lot was made about it but lately it's been radio silence.

I am assuming either stalemate or Russian advancements because had Ukraine pushed them back I think it would have been publicized.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8464 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:44 am to
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The Ukrainians started with a larger force, and they were rushing to get as many men under arms as possible. Training was limited and you didn't get a lot of it. It's a war of survival.



IDK if your point is accurate at all and it ultimately doesn't matter, but it should be common knowledge that Ukraine has all hands on deck at the front and Russia doesn't. They have a large force, no doubt. But not their entire army.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5766 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:45 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 31 May 2024

The total number of Russian casualties (killed and wounded) since the start of the war in February 2022 has now likely reached 500,000. Russian losses have continued at a high level in 2024, and in May average Russian personnel casualties were over 1,200 per day - the highest reported since the start of the war.

The elevated casualty rate is highly likely a reflection of Russia's ongoing attritional offensive which is being conducted across a wide front. It is highly likely that most Russian forces receive only limited training, and they are unable to carry out complex offensive operations. As a result, Russia employs small-scale but costly wave attacks in an effort to weaken Ukrainian defences.

Russia continues to recruit additional forces to sustain this approach. However, the need to continuously replenish front line personnel will almost certainly continue to limit Russia's ability to generate higher capability units.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5766 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:50 am to
SBU drones “shut down” Russia’s valuable radar in Crimea - source

Overnight Thursday, May 30, the Russians lost their Nebo-SVU long-range radar detection system worth nearly $100 million.

It was struck by a number of drones, developed by SBU’s military counter-intelligence units, sources say.

The interlocutor reported that the radar set up near Armyansk controlled a 380-km section of the front, ensuring the protection of enemy facilities on the territory of Crimea.

According to one source, after the attack by SBU drones, the space intelligence equipment recorded the shutdown of the radar signal and never recorded it since.

"This SBU special operation made the Russian air defense ‘blind’ on a large part of the front," he said.

Ukrinform
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:50 am to
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What has happened with the Russian offensive in the north? When it kicked off a lot was made about it but lately it's been radio silence.



Russia is building bases/staging areas in various spots close-ish to the front (not just in the north IIRC, but there too), either in anticipation of the lines crumbling or to start an actual offensive.

The 'villages' around Kharkiv that they were taking were sometimes small, like you think of when you hear the word "village", but sometimes there places were actually fairly large/important areas that are kind of like suburbs of Kharkiv I guess you'd say.

Russia doesn't have the force up there to actually take Kharkiv. So maybe the plan was to eventually take the surrounding area and cut off supplies, and then once the logistics depots/bases they are working on are operation to go in whole hog.

That seems to have been stymied for now, because Ukraine isn't just going to give up one of their largest cities that easily to a fairly telegraphed plan.

Ukraine is now either mostly holding ground or taking some back, depending on who you ask.

The recent authorization to strike into Russia near Kharkiv is directly related to stopping this plan, because if Russia did take Kharkiv it would be an absolute field day for their army and it could collapse the entire front depending on what Russia did from there. This seems like an existential battle within the existential war.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5766 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:52 am to
General Staff confirms strikes on oil terminal in Russia’s Krasnodar region with Neptune missiles

The Ukrainian Navy used Neptune missiles to strike a ferry crossing and an oil terminal at the Kavkaz port in Russia’s Krasnodar region.

According to Ukrinform, the press service of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine said this in a post on Facebook.

“The strike group of the grouping of forces and means of the Naval Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine hit a ferry crossing and an oil terminal at the Kavkaz port in Russia’s Krasnodar Krai. It happened in the early hours of May 31, the night after the Ukrainian Defense Forces had put out of action the ferries of the Kerch ferry crossing in occupied Crimea, which were running to the Kavkaz part and were used for the aggressor's military logistics,” the report says.

Ukrinform
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8464 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:53 am to
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As I outlined in detail a few pages back, the long-term strategic outook is very different.



If your several assumptions are correct.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42808 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 7:03 am to
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British Defence Intelligence INTELLIGENCE UPDATE UPDATE ON UKRAINE 31 May 2024


BDI and LW are discussing two completely different wars.

Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 8:09 am to
Take with your typical rybar amount of salt, but looks like there was a successful POW exchange

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Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 8:16 am to
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Neptune missiles to strike a ferry crossing and an oil terminal at the Kavkaz port in Russia’s Krasnodar region.


Mazut is Kaput
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13537 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:17 am to
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What about western governments changing their previously hardline stances on striking inside Russia points to things going well for Ukraine?


It's called boiling a frog. And for all their frickups, foreign and domestic, the Biden administration has done a damn good job with this. Russia keeps thinking it needs to go in just a little bit deeper...and then the West counters. And so Russia moves in a little bit deeper, etc.

Reminds me of Gen Harry Heth reporting to RE Lee on the first day at Gettysburg:

"I don't know what else I could have done....one moment it's just a minor scrap with some local militia. Next thing I know, I'm tangling with half the Union army."
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:29 am to
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What has happened with the Russian offensive in the north? When it kicked off a lot was made about it but lately it's been radio silence.

I am assuming either stalemate or Russian advancements because had Ukraine pushed them back I think it would have been publicized.

Per the interwebs, Ukraine counter-attacked and retook huge chunks of land in Vovchansk. There were reports of a Russian division getting encircled in that area, as well.

After the doom & gloom reporting, it's clear Russia is not progressing as they were expected to.
Posted by Goonie02
Member since Dec 2019
2797 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:32 am to
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Do you think Russia is winning? How? What does a Russian victory look like? When do you expect it?

yes. yes. yes. yes.

Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13537 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:34 am to
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Do you think Russia is winning? How? What does a Russian victory look like? When do you expect it?

yes. yes. yes. yes.


Deep. Insightful. You have some good points.
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