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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:44 pm to cypher
Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:44 pm to cypher
Has anyone else seen the video of citizens in the occupied territories being brought to the polling place. There are no voting booths and armed soldiers are watching the residents fill out their ballots.
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:03 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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political streetwalker Marie Le Pen
Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:05 pm to Auburn1968
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I suspect that these Russians are more anti-Putin than pro-Ukrainian.
You're likely correct, but they're anti-Putin enough to drive vehicles straight at the Russians.
Not sure if this is brilliant/clever or desperate from the AFU/"Anti-Putin" forces.
Unless they think they can actually drive tanks to Moscow, their "invasion" is unlikely to have any sort of success.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:12 pm to RuLSU
If Russia doesn't do anything about it they çan set up camp and stay awhile and become the de facto government. Russia can't allow that to happen. So they will have to fortify the region with troops they desperately need at the front line.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:14 pm to Obtuse1
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Marie Le Pen
Even she has sided with Ukraine. The political board must be so heartbroken.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:17 pm to WeeWee
How pathetic our politicians are when France can act as the leader of the free world.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:25 pm to Auburn1968
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I suspect that these Russians are more anti-Putin than pro-Ukrainian.
Putin has pissed off and pushed out a lot of Russians in the past 24 years.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:40 pm to Auburn1968
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I suspect that these Russians are more anti-Putin than pro-Ukrainian.
They’re white nationalists.
They like how homogeneous Ukraine is, they reject the multi ethnic nature of the Russian Federation, and they worry about demographic replacement in Russia. Moscow has been importing cheap labor from Central Asia for a long time although it’s not as significant as you see in Western countries. It depends on the person and the group, but some of these people would like Russia to split off the republics to create a purely Russian state.
It’s not a major movement.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:46 pm to Coeur du Tigre
Pretty hard to pay back a 16 million euro “loan” to a Russian oligarch when he’s on the sanctions list. Le Pen the old whore knows she won’t have to pay it back to a ghost.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:10 pm to Lima Whiskey
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They like how homogeneous Ukraine is, they reject the multi ethnic nature of the Russian Federation, and they worry about demographic replacement in Russia
That’s hysterical coming from you. How do you type this stuff with a straight face? At least SirWinston is being somewhat facetious.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:17 pm to REG861
If France truly follows through with sending actual troops and first-rate weaponry I'd begrudgingly root for Ukraine / NATO again in the hopes that a quick overwhelming push could force peace.
I don't like it and I don't support Lil Mac's decision, but if he truly means to WIN FAST and END the war (instead of dragging it out for 20 years of profit like our evil MIC and Biden / UK alliance mean to do) than I will reluctantly switch sides.
But the second that they start hemming and hawing and delaying actual aid and weaponry and Russia starts gaining again I'll be back to the rubicon.
P.S. It makes zero sense to have waited THREE YEARS for this. It's still disgusting no matter what happens from here on out. But whatever ends it quickly and with the most deaths prevented, that's what side I'm on.
I don't like it and I don't support Lil Mac's decision, but if he truly means to WIN FAST and END the war (instead of dragging it out for 20 years of profit like our evil MIC and Biden / UK alliance mean to do) than I will reluctantly switch sides.
But the second that they start hemming and hawing and delaying actual aid and weaponry and Russia starts gaining again I'll be back to the rubicon.
P.S. It makes zero sense to have waited THREE YEARS for this. It's still disgusting no matter what happens from here on out. But whatever ends it quickly and with the most deaths prevented, that's what side I'm on.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:18 pm to WeeWee
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Putin has pissed off and pushed out a lot of Russians in the past 24 years.
Putin gets flack for being too soft by the hardliners, nationalists dislike his pro multiethnic policies, and ethnic Russian Liberals don’t like him because their identity is caught up with being as western as possible, and they have an often ambivalent attitude towards Russia itself. Jewish Russian Liberals don’t like him, for a lot of reasons, it’s everything from the way he stepped on some of the Jewish oligarchs, to his efforts to promote family values and Christianity. Everyone would acknowledge that life is better today in 2024 than it is in 1998 or even 2008.
Overall, I have the impression that Putin is genuinely popular. Groups like the liberals are a small slice of society.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:19 pm to REG861
I’m quoting what they say themselves.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:21 pm to Lima Whiskey
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I suspect that these Russians are more anti-Putin than pro-Ukrainian. They’re white nationalists. They like how homogeneous Ukraine is, they reject the multi ethnic nature of the Russian Federation,
Sir Winston should love them.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:24 pm to WeeWee
If Ukrainians think the way to preserve their culture and heritage is by cozying up to NATO they are in for a VERY rude awakening 
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:30 pm to SirWinston
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:41 pm to SirWinston
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If Ukrainians think the way to preserve their culture and heritage is by cozying up to NATO they are in for a VERY rude awakening
Ukraine has a new culture and that’s a culture of hating Russia.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:57 pm to Jim Rockford
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If Russia doesn't do anything about it they çan set up camp and stay awhile and become the de facto government. Russia can't allow that to happen. So they will have to fortify the region with troops they desperately need at the front line.
I wonder how many Russian troops will be needed to keep Putin from being embarrassed.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:59 pm to GOP_Tiger
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How pathetic our politicians are when France can act as the leader of the free world.
Yeah, I definitely didn't have Macron stepping up the "We cannot be weak" rhetoric on my bingo card.
With that Macron/Putin phone call and the interview now, he is the only one showing some kind of balls in the situation. He sees that Russia has gained a significant upper hand on the ground and he is trying to open the eyes of Ukraine's allies that they must act quick. I'd love to see France take the initiative for the Europeans in stopping Russia. I still don't support any outside troops being put on the ground in Ukraine or Russia, but if he can wake everyone up and get the flow of more and better weapons faster, then I'm all for it.
I just hope he's willing to actually back up his words and isn't doing this for political goodwill from French citizens.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:03 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Overall, I have the impression that Putin is genuinely popular.
He was, but he spent that political capital and is now overdrawn. He can control the media and intimidate oligarchs, but he can't hide a couple of hundred thousand men with broken bodies from the families at the kitchen table.
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