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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:03 pm to Auburn1968
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:03 pm to Auburn1968
These guys were killed very quickly. It was a media stunt.
Casualties are low. I don’t think it’s ever going to become a problem for them.
Russians are also very comfortable with suffering, and they do not believe that you should be unhappy because you’re suffering. They’re also a very serious people.
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but he can't hide a couple of hundred thousand men with broken bodies from the families at the kitchen table.
Casualties are low. I don’t think it’s ever going to become a problem for them.
Russians are also very comfortable with suffering, and they do not believe that you should be unhappy because you’re suffering. They’re also a very serious people.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:08 pm to WeeWee
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Ukraine has a new culture and that’s a culture of hating Russia.
I don't think that's new. Stalin murdered and starved to death millions of Ukrainians and then tried to Russify Ukraine itself. For the elderly grand parents of today, that is within a family's living memory. That's like me knowing the stories from my grand parents and parents from the Great Depression (without the mass murder factor).
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:14 pm to IAmNERD
If France wants to take a bold step, let them send a significant number of modern fighter jets and then send highly trained volunteer pilots hired by Ukraine to fly them and some maintenance contractors too.
The USSR did that in the Korean and Vietnam war as did China.
The USSR did that in the Korean and Vietnam war as did China.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:15 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Casualties are low.
Meat wave attacks are perfectly safe I'm sure.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:15 pm to Auburn1968
The holdomor is post war mythology, I’m guessing the nationalist in Western Ukraine are responsible for it, there was no targeted campaign against Ukraine, what happened there happened everywhere, the leader of the agricultural policy at the time was Ukrainian, famines were also common and had been a reality in the imperial period, although the situation in the USSR was made worse by the communist ineptitude, and the worst hit region wasn’t even Ukraine. And I say that as someone who despises the Bolsheviks.
It’s certainly true that there is such a thing as a Ukrainian though, with their own separate identity, but this probably has more to do with Polish culture influence from the period of the Commonwealth than anything else.
It’s certainly true that there is such a thing as a Ukrainian though, with their own separate identity, but this probably has more to do with Polish culture influence from the period of the Commonwealth than anything else.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:20 pm to IAmNERD
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He sees that Russia has gained a significant upper hand on the ground and he is trying to open the eyes of Ukraine's allies that they must act quick. I'd love to see France take the initiative for the Europeans in stopping Russia. I still don't support any outside troops being put on the ground in Ukraine or Russia, but if he can wake everyone up and get the flow of more and better weapons faster, then I'm all for it.
Yeah, it's not even a huge change on the ground.
Ukraine is running out of 155mm shells. It's that simple. You cannot win without artillery, and certainly not against the Russians.
Ukraine still maintains a counter-battery advantage. Just get them 155mm shells and Ukraine can hold the line.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:22 pm to Lima Whiskey
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These guys were killed very quickly. It was a media stunt.
Then why were whole portions of Belgorad evacuated?
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:33 pm to Lima Whiskey
[quote]The holdomor is post war mythology,[/quote
To quote Joe Wilson, "YOU LIE!"
To quote Joe Wilson, "YOU LIE!"
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:33 pm to Lima Whiskey
quote:holy. frick
The holdomor is post war mythology, I’m guessing the nationalist in Western Ukraine are responsible for it,
Posted on 3/14/24 at 6:01 pm to SirWinston
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As opposed to Ukraine, who has no election,
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Article 83 of the Ukrainian Constitution states that if the term of the Verkhovna Rada expires under martial law, it shall automatically be extended until a new Rada is seated following the end of martial law. Article 19 of Ukraine’s martial law legislation specifically forbids conducting national elections. Thus, for Ukraine to conduct elections while under martial law would be a violation of legal norms that predate Zelensky and the full-scale Russian invasion.
How many times do you have to be told that it is illegal to hold elections in Ukraine during a state of emergency.
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no opposition newspapers,
Just like Russia.
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and no Orthodox Church
Looks like SirDumbass is wrong again. The Orthodox Church of Ukraine (OCU) which is the church that is officially recognized by the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople (aka the head of the eastern orthodox church) is there. Ukraine also has catholic churches and protestant churches. Only the Russian backed Ukrainian Orthodox Church (UOC) is banned in Ukraine. The UOC is banned because its priests have been caught openly collaborating with Russia.
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now only their neoshitlib sect is allowed).
Do you even know how the beliefs of the OCU and UOC are different? The main differences are the OCU follows the revised Julian calendar and UOC does not. The revised Julian Calendar is the calender that the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople and most of the Orthodox churches in the world use. The OCU also considered allowing women to enter churches without head coverings and installing benches for seating in churches. Yeah that is really neoliberal.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 6:05 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The holdomor is post war mythology,
Holy shite just when I think you can't get any dumber. How much brain damage did you sustain in the military?
Posted on 3/14/24 at 6:25 pm to IAmNERD
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How pathetic our politicians are when France can act as the leader of the free world.
Macron just made Biden look like the biotch that he is.
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Yeah, I definitely didn't have Macron stepping up the "We cannot be weak" rhetoric on my bingo card.
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He sees that Russia has gained a significant upper hand on the ground and he is trying to open the eyes of Ukraine's allies that they must act quick.
They do not need to act quick. They need to give/sell/lend Ukraine what it asked for. Ukraine has asked for fighter jets, helicopters, tanks, and long range missiles back in Feburary of 2022. The west has not provided fighters or helicopters yet, and just a handful of long range missiles.
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I'd love to see France take the initiative for the Europeans in stopping Russia. I still don't support any outside troops being put on the ground in Ukraine or Russia, but if he can wake everyone up and get the flow of more and better weapons faster, then I'm all for it.
Don't forget about Poland. Poland has been leading the charge for Europe to rebuild its arms industries for years now.
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I just hope he's willing to actually back up his words and isn't doing this for political goodwill from French citizens.
Defense industry jobs would be good for the French economy.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 3/14/24 at 6:28 pm to WeeWee
I honestly can’t believe I read that either. It just goes to show you how much Russians are truly sheep to believe something as terrible as the Holdomor didn’t happen. HOLY frickING shite! He really will say anything.
On another note, the Russians and their infinite wisdom might have pissed off Greece enough for them to give Ukraine their S-300s for a promise of a Patriot battery. While Greece’s Prime Minister was visiting Odesa with Zelensky they tried firing an Iskander at their convoy but missed by 500 meters.
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On another note, the Russians and their infinite wisdom might have pissed off Greece enough for them to give Ukraine their S-300s for a promise of a Patriot battery. While Greece’s Prime Minister was visiting Odesa with Zelensky they tried firing an Iskander at their convoy but missed by 500 meters.
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This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 3/14/24 at 6:28 pm to WeeWee
To arms, citizens!
Form your battalions
Let’s march, let’s march
That their impure blood
Should water our fields.
French are based
Form your battalions
Let’s march, let’s march
That their impure blood
Should water our fields.
French are based
Posted on 3/14/24 at 6:37 pm to Hateradedrink
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French are based
France has kicked Russia out of Sevastopol before.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 6:49 pm to WeeWee
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France has kicked Russia out of Sevastopol before.
In fairness, they did have some help from the Ottomans, British, and Sardinians.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 6:52 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The holdomor is post war mythology
I won’t insult your intelligence by accusing you of actually believing what you’ve just said.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 7:11 pm to Darth_Vader
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France has kicked Russia out of Sevastopol before.
In fairness, they did have some help from the Ottomans, British, and Sardinians.
The UK and Italy are both expected to join the French led coalition against Russia.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 8:31 pm to Darth_Vader
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I won’t insult your intelligence by accusing you of actually believing what you’ve just said.
People died all across the farm belt due to starvation, but there was no specific campaign against the Ukrainians, because they were Ukrainians. People have looked through the Soviet archives, there's no record of such a thing. Stalin actually diverted food aid from the Russian SSR to Ukraine.
One of the key contentions of the Holodomor is that it was Russians vs Ukrainians, but the people involved in farm policy weren't ethnic Russians. The Bolsheviks were a coalition of minorities from across the empire, although the leadership was predominantly Jewish, and Russians didn't become a substantial force in the party until after Stalin's purges.
One of the defining features of the Soviet system, especially up through the late 30s, was suppressing "Russian chauvinism", that meant suppressing the Russian identity, but also keeping Russians out of a position of power. Simultaneously, the Soviets as a matter of policy promoted the other nationalities at the expense of the Russians. This was their way of holding the system together . The war changed that, Stalin leaned on Russian nationalism to preserve the USSR, and Russians started taking on positions of power, but they, despite their numbers, would never dominate the party. The worry was always that the Russians would blow up the USSR, which is what Yeltsin, who was a nationalist, ultimately did. So the idea that the Communist Party would target the Ukrainians doesn't make sense, the Ukrainian Communist Party was also the most powerful of the parties, and it dominated the Soviet leadership until the end, that's why so many of the Soviet leaders came from Ukraine.
This post was edited on 3/15/24 at 10:37 am
Posted on 3/14/24 at 8:40 pm to Lima Whiskey
“some people did something”
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