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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:25 pm to Hateradedrink
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:25 pm to Hateradedrink
ISW Update
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Ukrainian Commander-in-Chief General Valerii Zaluzhnyi assessed on November 1 that the war in Ukraine has taken on a positional nature and offered a series of recommendations for Ukraine to restore maneuver to the battlespace.[1] In an essay entitled "Modern Positional Warfare and How to Win It" and an interview with The Economist, Zaluzhnyi outlined the current operational environment in Ukraine and noted that, despite several previously successful Ukrainian counteroffensive operations in 2022, the war is now "gradually moving to a positional form."[2] Zaluzhnyi heavily stressed that the current positional nature of the war is largely a result of military parity between Ukrainian and Russian forces, noting that a deep and dramatic Ukrainian penetration of Russian lines will likely not be possible with the relative technological and tactical equilibrium currently between Ukrainian and Russian forces.[3] In his interview with The Economist, Zaluzhnyi acknowledged that technological and tactical parity between opposing forces in Ukraine has resulted in a "stalemate" similar to the case of the First World War.[4] In the more extensive essay on the subject, Zaluzhnyi notably refrained from classifying the situation as a full stalemate and instead framed it as a "positional" war resulting from aspects of this technological-tactical parity.[5] According to Zaluzhnyi, Ukraine's ability to overcome this technological-tactical parity will be contingent on Ukraine's ability to secure five main operational components that have become particularly significant since the summer of 2023 — gaining air superiority; breaching Russian mine barriers in depth; increasing the effectiveness of counterbattery combat; creating and training the necessary reserves; and building up electronic warfare (EW) capabilities.
Zaluzhnyi offered a series of specific tactical solutions to the five aforementioned operational components that have created the conditions for positional warfare, which in his view will allow Ukraine to overcome military parity with Russian forces. Regarding the issue of air superiority, Zaluzhnyi argued that Ukrainian forces need to significantly improve drone capabilities to gain air superiority along the frontline.[6] Zaluzhnyi argued that Ukrainian forces need to overload Russian air defenses, neutralize Russian strike drones, and degrade Russian visibility over the front by deploying cheap drones en masse, developing specific drones meant to target Russian strike drones, and employing EW complexes throughout the front.[7] Zaluzhnyi argued that to overcome the challenges of EW use on the frontline, Ukrainian forces need to introduce necessary command and control (C2) processes for EW complexes, increase EW production capabilities, and streamline engagements with volunteer organizations that provide smaller EW complexes to Ukrainian forces.[8] Zaluzhnyi also recommended that Ukrainian forces improve counter-EW measures and develop new drones with EWs in mind.[9] To gain counterbattery superiority, Zaluzhnyi recommended that Ukrainian forces use more reconnaissance and strike drones to improve Ukrainian counterbattery fire and argued that Ukrainian forces need to strengthen GPS support for Ukrainian counterbattery units and increase the number of counterbattery assets.[10] Zaluzhnyi stated that improved sensors, more widespread and varied mine clearing capabilities, and anti-drone equipment will allow Ukrainian forces to more successfully breach Russian mine barriers in depth while under concealment.[11]
Zaluzhnyi also highlighted wider administrative adaptations and domestic developments in addition to his specific tactical battlefield solutions. Zaluzhnyi specifically called on Ukraine to introduce a Unified State Register for draftees, reservists, and those liable for military service to prepare a necessary reserve for Ukrainian forces.[12] Zaluzhnyi more broadly called on Ukrainian officials to incentivize Ukrainian citizens to join the military reserve and expand the number of citizens that Ukrainian forces are allowed to train.[13] Zaluzhnyi also noted that improving Ukrainian C2 and logistics support will be critical to improving operations writ large.[14] Zaluzhnyi stated that the formation of a "single information environment" for C2 through the use of modern information technology will allow Ukrainians to get ahead of Russian forces in terms of situational awareness.[15] Zaluzhnyi particularly highlighted the need for Ukraine to develop its own defense industry to sustain operations, long-range strike capabilities, and an asymmetric munitions arsenal to break out of military parity with Russian forces
Russian forces are likely preparing for another wave of highly attritional infantry-led ground assaults on Ukrainian positions in the Avdiivka area. A Kremlin-affiliated Russian milblogger claimed that Russian forces near Avdiivka have largely slowed the pace of ground attacks north and south of Avdiivka in favor of heavy indirect fire against Ukrainian frontline positions and near rear areas. Russian forces may be conducting an interdiction campaign against Ukrainian assets in the Avdiivka area, but this heavy fire is more likely air and artillery preparation for the battlefield ahead of another wave of Russian assaults.
Russian forces may be preparing to transition to such infantry-led frontal assaults following heavy artillery preparation to compensate for heavy materiel losses in Avdiivka over the course of October. Open-source geolocation project GeoConfirmed used commercially available satellite imagery to verify that Russian forces have suffered at least 197 damaged and destroyed vehicles since October 9, losing 99 vehicles during the first wave of assaults between October 9 and 13, 94 vehicles during the second wave between October 14 and 23, and four confirmed and 18 potentially lost vehicles between October 24 and31.[20] GeoConfirmed characterized the Russian effort near Avdiivka as the costliest Russian effort thus far in the war in Ukraine.
The current situation near Avdiivka is a microcosm of the Russian General Staff’s wider failure to internalize and disseminate lessons learned by Russian forces during previous failed offensive efforts in Ukraine to other force groupings throughout the theater. Various Russian elements have engaged in similarly catastrophic mechanized attacks with infantry-led frontal assaults on fortified Ukrainian positions along several different axes over the course of 2022 and 2023, suggesting that the ultimate fault in the lack of strategic adaptation lies with the General Staff. Russian forces previously suffered significant personnel and materiel losses during an unsuccessful offensive against Vuhledar, western Donetsk Oblast in winter 2022-2023, which was characterized by multiple waves of mechanized attacks against fortified Ukrainian positions
Ukrainian forces continued offensive operations near Bakhmut and in western Zaporizhia Oblast on November 1. The Ukrainian General Staff reported that Ukrainian forces continued offensive operations in the Bakhmut and Melitopol (western Zaporizhia Oblast) directions.[26] Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces unsuccessfully attacked near Zelenopillya (12km southwest of Bakhmut) and along a section of the railway line between Klishchiivka (7km southwest of Bakhmut) and Andriivka (10km southwest of Bakhmut).[27] A Russian milblogger claimed that Ukrainian forces marginally advanced from Shcherbaky (18km west of Orikhiv) towards Myrne (16km southwest of Orikhiv) and made gains west of Robotyne (10km south of Orikhiv).
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:26 pm to StormyMcMan
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Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu reiterated Russian President Vladimir Putin’s framing of ongoing Ukrainian ground activity on the east (left) bank of Kherson Oblast as part of the Ukrainian counteroffensive. Shoigu stated during a conference call on November 1 that Ukrainian forces unsuccessfully attacked in the Zaporizhia, Donetsk, and Kherson directions, grouping Ukrainian activity in the Kherson direction with directions recognized as currently part of ongoing Ukrainian counteroffensive efforts.[29] Putin described Ukrainian activity in Kherson Oblast as the “next [Ukrainian] counteroffensive” and dismissed all Ukrainian offensive operations as failures during a press conference in Beijing on October 18.[30]
Russian forces conducted a relatively large series of drone and missile strikes mainly targeting Poltava Oblast on the night of October 31 to November 1. The Ukrainian General Staff reported on November 1 that Russian forces launched three Kh-59 missiles and 20 Shahed 131/136 drones and noted that Ukrainian air defenses downed all three of the Kh-59 missiles and 18 Shahed drones
The Russian military appears poised to re-establish its military districts as the primary joint headquarters for its ground forces while transferring naval assets back to the command of the Russian Navy. Russian state media outlet TASS reported on November 1 that sources close to the Russian military leadership stated that the Russian Northern, Pacific, Black Sea, and Baltic fleets and Caspian Flotilla will return to direct subordination under Russian Navy Commander-in-Chief Admiral Nikolai Evmenov on December 1.[35] The Russian Northern Fleet (NF) will also lose its status as a separate military-administrative unit equal to a military district effective December 1, and its ground, aviation, and air defense forces will be transferred to the newly re-created Leningrad Military District. TASS noted that this information has not been officially confirmed. The Russian federal portal of draft regulator legal acts published a presidential decree on October 8, prepared by the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD), which proposed stripping the NF of its status as a joint "strategic territorial association,” signaling that this change would happen in the future but not specifying a date.
Russian sources speculated that Pavel Prigozhin, the son of deceased Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin, is officially the acting head of Wagner remnants operating under the auspices of Rosgvardia. Russian regional news outlets reported on November 1 that the Wagner Group has resumed recruiting in Perm and Novosibirsk oblasts under Pavel’s leadership.[37] Russian outlet Ngs.ru reported that a Wagner representative in Novosibirsk stated that Wagner is no longer recruiting criminals or people with illnesses.[38] Russian milbloggers also claimed that Pavel is the new leader of the remnants of Wagner and expressed hope that Pavel’s appointment is an indication that Wagner will survive its subordination to Rosgvardia
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Key Takeaways:
Ukrainian Commander-in-Chief General Valerii Zaluzhnyi assessed on November 1 that the war in Ukraine has taken on a positional nature and offered a series of recommendations for Ukraine to restore maneuver to the battlespace. Zaluzhnyi offered a series of specific tactical solutions to the five aforementioned operational components that have created the conditions for positional warfare, which in his view will allow Ukraine to overcome military parity with Russian forces.
Russian forces are likely preparing for another wave of highly attritional infantry-led ground assaults on Ukrainian positions in the Avdiivka area.
The current situation near Avdiivka is a microcosm of the Russian General Staff’s wider failure to internalize and disseminate lessons learned by Russian forces during previous failed offensive efforts in Ukraine to other force groupings throughout the theater.
Ukrainian forces continued offensive operations near Bakhmut and in western Zaporizhia Oblast on November 1.
Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu reiterated Russian President Vladimir Putin’s framing of ongoing Ukrainian ground activity on the east (left) bank of Kherson Oblast as part of the Ukrainian counteroffensive.
Russian forces conducted a relatively large series of drone and missile strikes mainly targeting Poltava Oblast on the night of October 31 to November 1.
The Russian military appears poised to re-establish its military districts as the primary joint headquarters for its ground forces while transferring naval assets back to the command of the Russian Navy.
Russian sources speculated that Pavel Prigozhin, the son of deceased Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin, is officially the acting head of Wagner remnants operating under the auspices of Rosgvardia.
Russian forces continued offensive operations along the Kupyansk-Svatove-Kreminna line, in the Bakhmut direction, near Avdiivka, west and southwest of Donetsk City, in the Donetsk-Zaporizhia Oblast border area, and in western Zaporizhia Oblast and advanced in various sectors of the front.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 4:00 am to StormyMcMan
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 02 November 2023
Russia has likely lost at least four long range Surface-to-Air Missile (SAM) launchers to Ukrainian strikes over the last week. On 26 October 2023, Russian media reported that three Russian SA-21 launchers had been destroyed in the Luhansk region. Ukrainian sources reported additional Russian air defence losses in Crimea.
Russia has long prioritised ample, high-tech, long range SAM systems as a key component of its military strategy.
The recent losses highlight that Russia's Integrated Air Defence System continues to struggle against modern precision strike weapons and will highly likely increase the already significant strain on remaining systems and operators. There is a realistic possibility that as Russia replaces the destroyed systems in Ukraine it will weaken its air defences in other operational areas.
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 02 November 2023
Russia has likely lost at least four long range Surface-to-Air Missile (SAM) launchers to Ukrainian strikes over the last week. On 26 October 2023, Russian media reported that three Russian SA-21 launchers had been destroyed in the Luhansk region. Ukrainian sources reported additional Russian air defence losses in Crimea.
Russia has long prioritised ample, high-tech, long range SAM systems as a key component of its military strategy.
The recent losses highlight that Russia's Integrated Air Defence System continues to struggle against modern precision strike weapons and will highly likely increase the already significant strain on remaining systems and operators. There is a realistic possibility that as Russia replaces the destroyed systems in Ukraine it will weaken its air defences in other operational areas.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 6:23 am to cypher
Group of Republicans in US Congress calls for longer-range ATACMS for Ukraine
European Pravda, Ukrainska Pravda — Thursday, 2 November 2023, 11:56
A group of high-ranking Republicans in the US Congress has called on President Joe Biden to send missiles with longer effective range to Ukraine.
Source: Reuters, reported by European Pravda
Details: Reuters obtained a letter to President Joe Biden dated 1 November. It is stated there that leading Republicans on the congressional foreign relations and armed services committees said they welcomed reports that the administration had provided Ukraine with several Army Tactical Missile Systems (ATACMS) but asked that he also send more longer-range systems.
"Ukraine's requirement for deep-strike capability remains urgent, particularly to range targets throughout Crimea," Representatives Michael McCaul and Mike Rogers and Senators James Risch and Roger Wicker wrote.
LINK
European Pravda, Ukrainska Pravda — Thursday, 2 November 2023, 11:56
A group of high-ranking Republicans in the US Congress has called on President Joe Biden to send missiles with longer effective range to Ukraine.
Source: Reuters, reported by European Pravda
Details: Reuters obtained a letter to President Joe Biden dated 1 November. It is stated there that leading Republicans on the congressional foreign relations and armed services committees said they welcomed reports that the administration had provided Ukraine with several Army Tactical Missile Systems (ATACMS) but asked that he also send more longer-range systems.
"Ukraine's requirement for deep-strike capability remains urgent, particularly to range targets throughout Crimea," Representatives Michael McCaul and Mike Rogers and Senators James Risch and Roger Wicker wrote.
LINK
Posted on 11/2/23 at 8:19 am to cypher
Look for the narrative from the GOP to shift to a louder “we aren’t doing enough” soon.
It’s always kind of been there but not very prominent. Now that the lines are relatively frozen, it becomes politically favorable to accuse Biden of slow-walking aid. Thus, blame.
It’s always kind of been there but not very prominent. Now that the lines are relatively frozen, it becomes politically favorable to accuse Biden of slow-walking aid. Thus, blame.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 9:11 am to Hateradedrink
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Look for the narrative from the GOP to shift to a louder “we aren’t doing enough” soon.
Politards will holler, "UNIPARTY!"
Posted on 11/2/23 at 9:20 am to Hateradedrink
It has definitely become a war of attrition which is a good thing. Russia needs to bleed out slowly
Posted on 11/2/23 at 9:29 am to jmarto1
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It has definitely become a war of attrition which is a good thing. Russia needs to bleed out slowly
It’s not a good thing for Ukraine. In the long run, a war of attrition favors Russia far more than it does Ukraine.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 10:06 am to Darth_Vader
No, Ukraine is screwed regardless. Russia has to take enough losses to say "whoa, this is too much". The above post saying they are pulling equipment from other areas is good news. It hopefully puts pressure on them to worry about being open to attack from other directions. Russia is just a gang at this point and could not face a modern military with modern tactics. Russia has always relied on numbers and winter.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 10:16 am to Darth_Vader
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It’s not a good thing for Ukraine. In the long run, a war of attrition favors Russia far more than it does Ukraine.
Depends on rate of attrition for each side. If attrition follows the clash between US and Wagner in Syria. Russia would no longer exist as a nation with any men.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 10:22 am to CitizenK
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Russia would no longer exist as a nation with any men.
I think the WWs have made that a foregone conclusion at this point. At this point, who takes over once their nuclear threat is diminished is a worry.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 10:24 am to jmarto1
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No, Ukraine is screwed regardless.
Get ready for them to be Sorosized. Thats what America exports.
Lots of poor, violent immigrants in their future.
This post was edited on 11/2/23 at 10:25 am
Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:47 am to Darth_Vader
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It’s not a good thing for Ukraine. In the long run, a war of attrition favors Russia far more than it does Ukraine.
Really depends. With ATACMS and F-16s, attrition will skew even heavier towards Ukraine's favor.
If Ukraine gets everything promised from the US/EU, maybe S Korea, Japan and Israel ... yeah, it'll just get better and better for Ukraine.
Russia has to manufacture most of their equipment. Ukraine is getting freebies. That makes a huge difference.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 12:39 pm to RuLSU
I see we are still optimistic. Forward March!
Posted on 11/2/23 at 1:05 pm to Errerrerrwere
Oh no, fellow Ukraine bros! I had to scroll over to pagina 2 to find this thread, which is never a good sign for our hero Volodymyr Zelenskyyyyy, his renowned Azov batallion, and the noble Ukrainian peasants who strive to become part of the NWO and to be welcomed by the warm embraces of George Soros, Bill Gates, and Klaus Schwab. We continue to pray to the God of Abraham for their success, but the news is (for the moment) not good.


This post was edited on 11/2/23 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 11/2/23 at 1:05 pm to RuLSU
Who is sending men? That's what Ukraine needs, men.
Anyone getting in line?
It doesn't matter what weapons get sent if you don't have well trained men to operate them.
The circle jerk in here should focus on when NATO troops should be sent into the fight because that's the only way these Russians will be expelled from Ukraine.
Again, any volunteers?
Not a single European or North American population will support sending troops to die over a couple hundred miles of eastern Ukraine not to mention the risk of WWIII.
Maybe people should get serious about ending this disaster instead of looking for creative ways to extend this stalemate.
Anyone getting in line?
It doesn't matter what weapons get sent if you don't have well trained men to operate them.
The circle jerk in here should focus on when NATO troops should be sent into the fight because that's the only way these Russians will be expelled from Ukraine.
Again, any volunteers?
Not a single European or North American population will support sending troops to die over a couple hundred miles of eastern Ukraine not to mention the risk of WWIII.
Maybe people should get serious about ending this disaster instead of looking for creative ways to extend this stalemate.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 2:02 pm to Tiger985
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Again, any volunteers?
Nah, I’m good.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 2:03 pm to Tiger985
quote:why does the poli board keep wishcasting this
The circle jerk in here should focus on when NATO troops should be sent into the fight
This post was edited on 11/2/23 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 11/2/23 at 2:17 pm to Tiger985
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Maybe people should get serious about ending this disaster instead of looking for creative ways to extend this stalemate.
I think we are on the 9th conflict that Russia has started since 2010. I may be wrong but not far off. Diplomacy seems to not be working. Russia takes a break and regroups. Use Ukrainian blood, our hand me down equipment, and unfortunately our money to put this to an end. If we don't want our blood there then we need to keep them out of Nato countries
Posted on 11/2/23 at 2:41 pm to jmarto1
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I think we are on the 9th conflict that Russia has started since 2010.
15th war since the fall of the Soviet Union, 7th since Putin took office.
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