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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/30/22 at 3:09 am to AU86
Posted on 6/30/22 at 3:09 am to AU86
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You are a nut.
Why don't you go sign up for Vlad's army of cannon fodder?
If a threat approaches me, I don't want it, so I'm crazy?
Let me remind you that it is not in Mexico or Canada that the Russian Federation supplies the radicals with guns, but they are shooting near Russia. And even on the territory of Russia, and not in the United States, rockets arrive.
Volunteers to participate in the defense of our military registration and enlistment offices are sent home. They say that there are enough forces and the army does not need it.
So do not worry, as soon as you need to sign up.
Why aren't you going to Ukraine to make war with me?
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 3:14 am to TutHillTiger
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Hey I have friends you are fricking with. yeah they may have overthrown a few small counties etc but that’s just how we used to roll
My English is not enough to understand what you mean
Posted on 6/30/22 at 4:32 am to ruff fish
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It's like with the Augean stables, you can, as you say, connect mathematical calculations, hire a hundred or a thousand diggers and dig. And you can start the river bed with one digger and clean it up.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 4:46 am to ruff fish
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Why aren't you going to Ukraine to make war with me?
Russia is the invader. It’s an objective fact.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 5:12 am to TBoy
Posted on 6/30/22 at 6:16 am to sugar71
quote:
Goodwill gesture" claim the Russians.
Another feint
Posted on 6/30/22 at 7:04 am to RLDSC FAN
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 30 June 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
Ukrainian forces continue to hold their positions in the city of Lyschansk following their withdrawal from Sieverodonetsk. Russian forces continue to pursue an approach of creeping envelopment from the Popasna direction, removing the need to force a major new crossing of the Siverskyi Donets River in this sector.
Current ground combat is likely focused around the Lyschansk oil refinery, 10km south-west of the city centre. At the operational level, Russian forces continue to make limited progress as they attempt to encircle Ukrainian defenders in northern Donetsk Oblast via advances from Izium.
It is highly likely that Ukrainian forces' ability to continue fighting delaying battles, and then withdraw troops in good order before they are encircled, will continue to be a key factor in the outcome of the campaign.
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 30 June 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
Ukrainian forces continue to hold their positions in the city of Lyschansk following their withdrawal from Sieverodonetsk. Russian forces continue to pursue an approach of creeping envelopment from the Popasna direction, removing the need to force a major new crossing of the Siverskyi Donets River in this sector.
Current ground combat is likely focused around the Lyschansk oil refinery, 10km south-west of the city centre. At the operational level, Russian forces continue to make limited progress as they attempt to encircle Ukrainian defenders in northern Donetsk Oblast via advances from Izium.
It is highly likely that Ukrainian forces' ability to continue fighting delaying battles, and then withdraw troops in good order before they are encircled, will continue to be a key factor in the outcome of the campaign.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 7:06 am to StormyMcMan
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Goodwill gesture" claim the Russians.
Another humiliation for Putin.
Background on events leading up to the invaders retreat...
Ukrayinska Pravda
relevant tweet...
Darth Putin
@DarthPutinKGB
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1h
Day 127 of my 3 day war. As "gesture of goodwill" my army have run away from Snake Island.
I remain a master strategist.
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 7:56 am
Posted on 6/30/22 at 7:41 am to ruff fish
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Russia has said that it would like to join NATO and thereby rid itself of the threat. But we were refused and at the same time they accepted our former allies there.
2 questions
1) How could Russia join NATO if NATO promised not to expand, as you asserted earlier in this thread? Both can not be true
2) Russia and NATO worked together until 2014. Can you tell me what actions Russia did in 2014 to end that dialogue?
Posted on 6/30/22 at 7:43 am to StormyMcMan
LINK
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NATO faced rebukes from Moscow and Beijing on Thursday after it declared Russia a “direct threat” and said China posed “serious challenges ” to global stability.
quote:
“Of course, we have to expect some kind of surprises from Putin, but I doubt that he is attacking Sweden or Finland directly,” Kallas said as she arrived at the summit’s conference center venue. “We will see cyberattacks definitely. We will see hybrid attacks, information war is going on. But not the conventional war.”
China accused the alliance of “maliciously attacking and smearing” the country. Its mission to the European Union said NATO “claims that other countries pose challenges, but it is NATO that is creating problems around the world.”
NATO leaders turned their gaze south for a final summit session Thursday focused on Africa’s Sahel region and the Middle East, where political instability — aggravated by climate change and food insecurity sparked by the war in Ukraine — is driving large numbers of migrants toward Europe.
“It is in our interest to continue working with our close partners in the south to fight shared challenges together,” Stoltenberg said.
But it was Russia that dominated the summit. Stoltenberg said Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine had brought “the biggest overhaul of our collective defense since the end of the Cold War.”
Posted on 6/30/22 at 8:01 am to sugar71
quote:
Goodwill gesture" claim the Russians
That large plume of smoke was probably caused by a goodwill gesture from the Ukrainians.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 8:17 am to StormyMcMan
quote:
Russia and NATO worked together until 2014. Can you tell me what actions Russia did in 2014 to end that dialogue?
Something something NATO's fault something something US is to blame something something...
Posted on 6/30/22 at 8:24 am to LeClerc
Tough week for Russia:
• Default on foreign debt
• Finland and Sweden join NATO
• Retreat from Snake Island
• Russian companies refusing to pay yearly dividends (Gazprom -30% today)
• Default on foreign debt
• Finland and Sweden join NATO
• Retreat from Snake Island
• Russian companies refusing to pay yearly dividends (Gazprom -30% today)
Posted on 6/30/22 at 9:11 am to TacoNash
It’s seems probable that Ukraine could hold the island now with their supplemented armory of anti-ship missiles. If so, it might give them the ability to stage air defense systems and expand their area of control in the Black Sea. Russian naval power in the region appear pretty tenuous at present.
I also hope that the US uses this as an opportunity to develop and test small boat tactics that could be applied in other asymmetrical conflicts (ex. Taiwan and Iran). The US is sending patrol boats, so hopefully they have a plan for them.
I also hope that the US uses this as an opportunity to develop and test small boat tactics that could be applied in other asymmetrical conflicts (ex. Taiwan and Iran). The US is sending patrol boats, so hopefully they have a plan for them.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 9:20 am to RLDSC FAN
Russian ammunition depot blown up with Ukrainian Valkyrie
Thursday, 30 June 2022, 15:26
Ukrainian artillerymen have hit a Russian ammunition depot in Donbas thanks to the Ukrainian unmanned aerial system Valkyrie.
Source: Pivnich (North) task force
Quote: "The famous Ukrainian Valkyrie hits the occupiers again!
Somewhere in Donbas our defenders successfully hit an Uragan ammunition depot with this unmanned aerial system and destroyed it!"
Ukrayinska Pravda
First I've heard of Valkyrie, I believe it's made by Aviation Systems of Ukraine
Thursday, 30 June 2022, 15:26
Ukrainian artillerymen have hit a Russian ammunition depot in Donbas thanks to the Ukrainian unmanned aerial system Valkyrie.
Source: Pivnich (North) task force
Quote: "The famous Ukrainian Valkyrie hits the occupiers again!
Somewhere in Donbas our defenders successfully hit an Uragan ammunition depot with this unmanned aerial system and destroyed it!"
Ukrayinska Pravda
First I've heard of Valkyrie, I believe it's made by Aviation Systems of Ukraine
Posted on 6/30/22 at 9:22 am to Kentucker
FYI that is a picture from the early days of the war. Those buildings are all gone now.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 9:34 am to Athanatos
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I also hope that the US uses this as an opportunity to develop and test small boat tactics
Perhaps the Ukraine could hire some Somali Pirates to help them.
Seriously, what happened to those boys? Are they out of business now?
Posted on 6/30/22 at 9:39 am to doubleb
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Perhaps the Ukraine could hire some Somali Pirates to help them.
I was thinking more along the lines of the way Iran uses fast boats for swarm attack.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 9:41 am to StormyMcMan
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1) How could Russia join NATO if NATO promised not to expand, as you asserted earlier in this thread? Both can not be true
Why reason with him? They buy into this propaganda Mother Russia stuff every time. They are actually worse at believing propaganda than we in this country are since the Obama era.
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 9:59 am
Posted on 6/30/22 at 9:52 am to aTmTexas Dillo
?? What was included in the assistance package to Ukraine from 50 countries
According to US President Joe Biden, 50 countries have pledged to provide additional $ 800 million in military assistance to Ukraine, which will include:
?? 140,000 anti-tank systems.
?? more than 600 tanks.
?? about 500 artillery systems.
?? more than 600 thousand artillery ammunition.
?? additional HIMARS multiple rocket launchers (number not specified).
?? anti-ship complexes and air defense systems (number not specified).
Source telegram.
According to US President Joe Biden, 50 countries have pledged to provide additional $ 800 million in military assistance to Ukraine, which will include:
?? 140,000 anti-tank systems.
?? more than 600 tanks.
?? about 500 artillery systems.
?? more than 600 thousand artillery ammunition.
?? additional HIMARS multiple rocket launchers (number not specified).
?? anti-ship complexes and air defense systems (number not specified).
Source telegram.
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