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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:41 pm to
Posted by Duke
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Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:41 pm to


Its plausible.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:43 pm to
Who is getting high?
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:44 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/22/26 at 11:34 am
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:48 pm to
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"OMLandshark"

quote:

You project more drama than my 6 1/2 yr.old daughter.


Like someone has repeatedly shot him in the dick with an arrow full of amphetamines and estrogen?



The most entertaining post in the thread, from almost 1,000 pages ago.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30714 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:53 pm to
quote:

The most entertaining post in the thread, from almost 1,000 pages ago.


Whilst I agree there have been multiple doozies along the way.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:57 pm to
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Whilst I agree there have been multiple doozies along the way.

There it is.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:50 pm to
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15972 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:53 pm to
Russia was just sending a message to Biden because they knew there were not any American soldiers there. Trust me after the last few months Putin didn't want any of this smoke.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:58 pm to
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Boris is in Kiev today, made this announcement:
It seems Johnson is trying to address the Ukrainians lack of familiarity with NATO systems.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:01 pm to
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As of today, we have approximately 30 to 40, sometimes up to 50 percent of losses of equipment as a result of active combat. So, we have lost approximately 50 percent. … Approximately 1,300 infantry fighting vehicles have been lost, 400 tanks, 700 artillery systems.


- Brig. Gen. Volodymyr Karpenko

LINK

Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8682 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:14 pm to
Ok now talk about all the shite Russia has lost. You won’t do that though……
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:18 pm to
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Conflict
Ok now talk about all the shite Russia has lost. You won’t do that though……
They believe Ukrainians if it supports their Pro Russian narrative.


This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 7:26 pm
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8682 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:22 pm to
He knows there’s no way he can spin the fact that the Russians can’t advance even with a 10-15:1 artillery advantage over the Ukrainians because the Russian military is made up of shitty o delete equipment and under trained conscript “soldiers” who are just there to be cannon fodder and fertilizer.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:25 pm to
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now talk about all the shite Russia has lost


Russian losses will be much lower. They’re being very cautious.

They also have large stockpiles of heavy weapons. There’s no scenario where they run out of tanks or artillery, for example.

The Ukrainians however are very short on heavy weapons. And that is a problem for them.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:30 pm to
The Ukrainians believed that telling the truth about their losses would endanger western aid.

If the west understood how bad it was, they would end their support of Kiev, and make a deal with Moscow.

It’s gotten to the point where the situation is so bad, that Kiev can’t pretend it away, and simultaneously, the West has cut back on aid (largely because they have nothing left to give.)

The Ukrainians have responded to this problem, by being more honest about their losses, in the hope that these numbers will persuade the west to give more aid. Ie If we tell them how desperate it is, they will offer more help.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 7:31 pm
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8682 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:31 pm to
Lol of course because I’m all the history of Russian military warfare they have cared about low casualties. They care less about their own soldiers than they do the people they fight. Ukraine has been outgunned this entire conflict and yet that map sure doesn’t move much in Russia’s favor for the discrepancy in hardware between the two. They might not run out of tanks but they damn sure are pulling shite out of the boneyard already. Pretty soon they will be shipping T-34’s to the front.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 7:33 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:33 pm to
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because I’m all the history of Russian military warfare they have cared about low casualties.


The Ukrainians outnumber the Russians.

And the Russians aren’t operating under any time pressure.

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yet that map sure doesn’t move much in Russia’s favor for the discrepancy in hardware between the two.


It’s very slow. That’s the trade off for the Russians.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8682 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:45 pm to
So do you condone Putin’s threats to use nuclear weapons if their sovereignty is threatened? You know kinda like how he just did with invading a sovereign country in Ukraine…… I guess it’s a double standard right?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:55 pm to
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because I’m all the history of Russian military warfare they have cared about low casualties.


The Ukrainians outnumber the Russians.


Source?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:16 pm to
Washington has said that Russia has around 150k men in Ukraine.
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