re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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NYT is reporting continued advances by the Nationalists towards Kherson and the Liberators retreating laden with spoils. Not as heavily defended as thought.


ISW is confirming the reports.

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Southern Axis Update: #Ukrainian forces have reportedly advanced to within 18 km of occupied parts of #Kherson (though we cannot confirm exact positions), which is likely placing pressure on Russian forces to strengthen their defensive lines in the south.

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Hope this is a prelude to something bigger .

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Austin & Milley just finished their press conference at the conclusion of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group meeting

A few items of note...

The US will provide an additional 18 M777 howitzers and the rest of the allies will provide around 82 for a total of 100 new 155 artillery. This brings the grand total of 155 artillery to around 300.

The US will provide 30000 155 rounds.

The only new MLRS systems are 3 from Germany.

The US will provide 2 harpoon systems.

They were heavily questioned regarding the low number of heavy weapons.

Also, Milley said that the Ukrainians just finished their HIMARS training yesterday - June 14.

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The number of 10 MLRS systems committed is disappointing however let's consider two things here.

First, in the press conference, BBC asked a question specifically about this issue of a lack of MLRS systems [ at 18:25]. Austen replied that the MLRS has "a different kind of capability" compared to standard long range weapons. He conveys that the accuracy of these weapon systems separate them from standard artillery. I read somewhere the an MLRS system is a 70km sniper. Remember the US promise of sharing targeting intelligence for these MLRS's with the Ukrainians. That may also insure that nothing strays across the border, but bottom line, each rocket will hit what they are intended to hit.

Secondly, it is clear that there is much more to come but not all at once. Austin states that they want to send 'what is relevant for this current fight' to 'get them the capability that they need' [at 35:15]. The US will 'move heaven and earth' to do provide everything the Ukrainians need.

This position clearly has President Biden's support, it is his authority that is allowing this to happen and happen fast -

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The rocket artillery in this aid package would have the same range as previous U.S. rocket shipments and is funded using Presidential Drawdown Authority, or PDA, in which the president can authorize the transfer of articles and services from U.S. stocks without congressional approval in response to an emergency, said a source who spoke on condition of anonymity.

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Please note that we don't need anyone's fricking agreement or permission to send these weapons. Biden's DoD is not worried about hurting Putin's feelings.

So yes, everyone is impatient to get Kviv what they want, but we are giving them what they need now with a solid assurance of further assistance later.

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The US will provide 2 harpoon systems.

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Those have been Odessa for awhile. SHip killers, cracks em right in half.

100 new 155 tubes and another 30k in rounds.

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We were already at a point where the global economy was fricked.

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Good, so we agree killing Russians isnt impacting that.

And what about the huge uptick in American armament/munitions? Did you know most of those companies are publicly traded? ditch the AOL man get some Northrop Grumman

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Russia had enough cash to burn for 6 months, thats how long they planned sanctions would be in place. They have burned through what of their reserve they could get to and are selling crude for 60 cents on the dollar in India and China. Let see if that sustainable over the next 6 months.

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That's how we won the cold war and broke the USSR. I swear Regan announcing the space Star Wars system was just a ploy to get the Soviets to spend until they were poor.

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The number of 10 MLRS systems committed is disappointing however let's consider two things here.

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I agree with both your points.

One of Austin's replys is noteworthy ....

Now again, it's a combination of the howitzers, the cannon artillery and the long range rockets what will create a pretty good capability. And again, as you target things with that long range capability, you're going after things like command and control nodes and logistical nodes and those kinds of things which will begin to atrit the adversary's ability to sustain itself and command and control itself. But, yes, with the systems that we have provided them to date, I mean the M777s have been absolutely lethal.

Here's the transcript of the press conference.

Secretary of Defense Austin and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Milley Hold a Press Briefing After the Ukraine Defense Contact Group Meeting at NATO Headquarters, Brussels, Belgium, June 15, 2022

This coordinated circle jerk of PoliBoard posters is ridiculous.

Latest reports are that the Ukrainians are suffering up to 100 dead and 300 injured daily in the Donbas, and the Russians are estimated to be losing larger numbers. That must be a clear sign to the other European countries that Russian aggression has to be stopped.

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Guess you're fine with us giving American tax dollars to another countries citizens when that cash could be used here for our own citizens.

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The only way they could support continually hurting the American economy and our way of life is if they were actually pro-Russia.

It is the only way it would make sense.



It’s merely projection on their part.

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Hey LowT sorry the facts are hurting your emotions. Guess you're fine with us giving American tax dollars to another countries citizens when that cash could be used here for our own citizens.

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These hypotheticals are so stupid…

so you’re in favor of our gov giving money away domestically to people who need it? Of course you’re not…

I agree with you on very little politically, but agree completely that the poli board wackos are ruining this thread, which , til now, has been one of the most sustained successes on this board.
I wish admins would intervene, so we can discuss the conflict in Ukraine.