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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/13/22 at 8:22 am to
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 6/13/22 at 8:22 am to
Ukraine looks worse than Germany in ww2 in places. Even if Russia throws in the towel and just keeps the Donbas will Ukraine ever recover?
Posted by Palmetto98
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Posted on 6/13/22 at 8:22 am to
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Seeing much of the same, but did note that in yesterday’s speech Zelensky claimed that Russia would have 40k KIA by the end of the month, which suggests that both sides are taking significant losses. Nothing about the recent news suggests that Russia is capable of any significant offensive or that they are about to achieve any significant strategic victory.


Constant Cope and reassurance
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 6/13/22 at 8:25 am to
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Ukraine looks worse than Germany in ww2 in places. Even if Russia throws in the towel and just keeps the Donbas will Ukraine ever recover?



I think that really depends on what territories they keep. I think they have a fighting chance if they are able to keep the natural gas fields. They would allow Western O&G companies to come in and explore. Couple gas with their Ag industry and they will be back quickly

I'd look at Yugoslavia as an example. They were WRECKED in the late 90's and have seemed to come back pretty strong.
Posted by Centinel
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/13/22 at 8:29 am to
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Constant Cope and reassurance


Russia will take Kyiv in only a couple weeks.

Russia will take Kharkiv in only a couple weeks.

Constant cope and reassurance indeed.

Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38246 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 8:30 am to
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Russia will take Kyiv in only a couple weeks.


Actually it was 48 hours. I’m still waiting for him to provide any evidence that he’s ever left the country let alone evidence of his prolific travels in Eastern Europe.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 6/13/22 at 8:30 am to
Annual fishing trip this weekend, I come in here to see if I could read 4-5 pages or so to get a feel for what happened over the weekend and it’s a bunch of OML fear porn and trolls again.

Can any of the regulars fill me in on what’s taken place over the weekend?
Posted by Palmetto98
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Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 6/13/22 at 8:43 am to
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Russia will take Kyiv in only a couple weeks. Russia will take Kharkiv in only a couple weeks. Constant cope and reassurance indeed.


LINK

Yep I snorted your copium early on and realized it was dog doodoo quality. Y’all can’t seem to get off it though.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 6/13/22 at 8:43 am to
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Former Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Kasyanov said that if Ukraine loses the war, Baltic states would be next


he should shut the frick up because i promise he does not want that smoke from NATO. Russians can shite talk all they want but that war is over within 3 months and they will lose any territory they may have gained and depending on how far they want to push it, may cease to exist as a country.
Posted by Palmetto98
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Posted on 6/13/22 at 8:44 am to
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Can any of the regulars fill me in on what’s taken place over the weekend?


It’s now evident in the west that Ukraine will lose this war. We have a bunch of lingering Ukie proud boys still lingering with cope and reassurance
Posted by lsu777
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/13/22 at 8:46 am to
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I’m not for war and heavily against it. Got shite on by my parents, teachers, and peers for being vocally strongly opposed to the War in Iraq. My arguments aged well, and I will die on the hill of being anti-war again. They now all admit I was right about that, so I’m not going to shut up here.



Are you kidding? 90% of our arguements have been your bullshite about needing troops on the ground in taiwan and honestly before this conflict you were saying for ukraine too. you have been pro war for the last year until this conflict started.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15978 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 8:51 am to
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When you are a neutral country but get 90 percent of your ag staples from a country being attacked you might want to be pulling for your supplier instead of the one that's trying to destroy it and offers you nothing.


Exactly where did I say whom if anyone I was pulling for? I didn't.
This thread has more emotional responses then actual thought out debate. If anyone says anything that is not 1000% in Ukraine favor you get called a Russian fan. This is what is wrong in this country there isn't any common ground anymore.
Posted by Palmetto98
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Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 6/13/22 at 8:53 am to
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Exactly where did I say whom if anyone I was pulling for? I didn't. This thread has more emotional responses then actual thought out debate. If anyone says anything that is not 1000% in Ukraine favor you get called a Russian fan. This is what is wrong in this country there isn't any common ground anymore.


According to the summer swimming pics in Kiev, the die hard Ukie proud boys are more invested than the Ukrainians themselves lmao
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/13/22 at 8:53 am to
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It’s now evident in the west that Ukraine will lose this war. We have a bunch of lingering Ukie proud boys still lingering with cope and reassurance



and as discussed on the previous page, what have they won even if they do win? Everything they built militarily has been shown to be a lie. their weapons systems are dog shite and have been paraded in front of the whole world and been shown to be inferiour.

they have lost most of the senior leadership, going to have 50-75k dead by the end of this, their whole military way of thinking has been shredded

so lets say they take all of ukraine

1) economy is fricking destroyed, including thier currency
2) will have huge insurgency problem, combined with #1 means they will not be able to hold the territory long term and rebuild it.
3) their main export, petro, has lost much of its customers
4) nato has more land on the border than ever
5) lost its best customers for their weapons systems


so wtf have they won even if they "win"?? Shove that Copium up your arse.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/13/22 at 9:02 am to
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Couple gas with their Ag industry and they will be back quickly


Ag will come back quickly. gas is a wholly different issue. There were multiple companies working in the offshore fields but when Russia took Crimea they literally stole the companies' rigs. This is why there has been little Western investment in O&G for the last 8 years. This invasion will only make already gunshy companies more reluctant.
Posted by Palmetto98
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Member since Nov 2021
2145 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 9:03 am to
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and as discussed on the previous page, what have they won even if they do win? Everything they built militarily has been shown to be a lie. their weapons systems are dog shite and have been paraded in front of the whole world and been shown to be inferiour.


There’s plenty to gain but y’all are so deep in your own bull shvt that y’all refuse to take any realistic approach that doesn’t stroke off Ukraine.

I’ll keep it simple for you: The money, resources, geopolitics are all in eastern and southern Ukraine. Kiev, Western, and northern all contain nothing of value other than sentimental. Once Russia completes the war and integrates the territories, it has turned Ukraine in to a giant land locked Moldova country. Ukraine will rot in hell, Zelensky will be overthrown, and you pro Ukies will find another country to put your flag on Facebook for. The story of the actor president that shamed Donald trump fell to big bad Putin.

The End
This post was edited on 6/13/22 at 9:05 am
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15978 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 9:15 am to
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what have they won even if they do win? Everything they built militarily has


Europe's largest nuclear reactor, all the coal mines, shipping ports just to name a few.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38222 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 9:16 am to
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I’ll keep it simple for you: The money, resources, geopolitics are all in eastern and southern Ukraine. Kiev, Western, and northern all contain nothing of value other than sentimental. Once Russia completes the war and integrates the territories, it has turned Ukraine in to a giant land locked Moldova country. Ukraine will rot in hell, Zelensky will be overthrown, and you pro Ukies will find another country to put your flag on Facebook for. The story of the actor president that shamed Donald trump fell to big bad Putin.


bro, are you retarded? i promise im far to the right of you and pretty much every other person on the poilboard.

and is your ukraine hate really about daddy trump and a perceived slight?

i couldnt give 2 fricks about ukraine itself.

even if they take southern ukraine or all of ukraine....did they really win?

address my fricking points or you are just jacking off big bad putin and being a shite talking little bitch as usual who like most on the poliboard cant forma coherent arguement and flip flop on issues all the time.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 9:32 am to
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so wtf have they won even if they "win"?? Shove that Copium up your arse.


So what? Then why did we continue to send billions?

This, I think, is the issue most of us have.

You spent a post entailing how bad Russia sucks at war but for some reason, we just funneled money to Ukraine for what then?

Is Russia a joke or not?

No. They arent a joke. They have nukes.

So yea, there is a "what".....
This post was edited on 6/13/22 at 9:33 am
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
25070 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 9:34 am to
good political posts
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 9:49 am to
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Ukraine


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land locked

Idiot.
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