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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:21 pm to rowbear1922
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:21 pm to rowbear1922
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I’m not pro Russia by any means but NATO is the reason Russia I’d doing what they are doing.
No, it isn't it is about oil and water AKA money.
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Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:23 pm to Centinel
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NATO is the reason why Russia is invading a non-NATO sovereign nation?
NATO said it wouldn’t move east when the USSR broke up….it’s moved very much east since. Ukraine was the last country Russia could do anything in without nato Intervention
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:27 pm to rowbear1922
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NATO said it wouldn’t move east when the USSR broke up
And Russia said it would leave Ukraine its independence in exchange for giving up its nuclear arsenal.
And we all see how that turned out. Eight years ago.
ETA: Only one nation has completely ignored its agreements. Only one nation has invaded a sovereign nation. I'm sure you can figure out who that is.
This post was edited on 5/21/22 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:30 pm to Centinel
Russia is having a lot of success in Donbas. Major breakthroughs throughout.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:33 pm to Stidham8
Odd, you never seem to show the maps from the Kharkiv region.
Why is that?
Why is that?
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:33 pm to Centinel
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Then I'm glad you understand why the Russian invasion of a sovereign nation is wrong and should be rebuked.
Rebuked, yes. Actively engaged by American troops? No
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Oh, so now borders aren't really borders, and they shouldn't be respected and defended as long as it's just a "small targeted and restrained invasion in a neighboring country"
That’s not what I said.
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Sounds like you support Mexico invading California, New Mexico, Arizona, and Texas. After all, it's a neighboring country that it has a long history with and partial support in.
They’d have much more justification than the United States in the Middle East for sure.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:34 pm to Stidham8
You’ve said that for weeks now and that map has barely changed.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:35 pm to Nguyener
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Rebuked, yes. Actively engaged by American troops? No
Well good thing they aren't.
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That’s not what I said.
My quote was word for word from your post. If you didn't say that, you should edit your post.
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They’d have much more justification than the United States in the Middle East for sure.
We're not talking about the middle east.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:35 pm to Centinel
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Odd, you never seem to show the maps from the Kharkiv region. Why is that?
I’m more interested with the major front of the war. Russia is winning decisively there.
If things continue, as predicted, Russia will take Donbas.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:36 pm to Stidham8
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I’m more interested with the major front of the war. Russia is winning decisively there.
So Russia abandoning the second largest city and biggest industrial city in the country isn't a major front?
Your focus seems rather selective. Why is that?
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:50 pm to Centinel
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And Russia said it would leave Ukraine its independence in exchange for giving up its nuclear arsenal. And we all see how that turned out. Eight years ago. ETA: Only one nation has completely ignored its agreements. Only one nation has invaded a sovereign nation. I'm sure you can figure out who that is.
But Putin’s feelings!!!
The weirdos both left and right think we’re supposed to GAF
Posted on 5/22/22 at 4:04 am to rowbear1922
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NATO is the reason Russia I’d doing what they are doing.
You have got to be some kind of fricking stupid to believe this.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 7:12 am to Stidham8
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If things continue, as predicted, Russia will take Donbas.
Your incorrect use of a comma here actually changes the intended meaning of your sentence. But I digress.
It was "predicted" that Russia would take Kiev in three weeks. But that didn't happen.
Do you still think Russia takes the entire country, captures the capital, destroys the entire Ukrainian Army, and forces the government to capitulate?
Posted on 5/22/22 at 7:41 am to Stidham8
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I’m more interested with the major front of the war. Russia is winning decisively there
I wonder if the lines on your map are accurate if all of the major fighting is within those lines. Wouldn’t the major battles be within Ukrainian controlled areas if the Russians are advancing?
Posted on 5/22/22 at 8:51 am to rowbear1922
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NATO said it wouldn’t move east when the USSR broke up….it’s moved very much east since. Ukraine was the last country Russia could do anything in without nato Intervention
Aww, everybody's picking on poor Russia! Won't let them intimidate and invade whomever the hell they want.
How dare those nationalities who aspire to be part of the Western European democracies instead of an authoritarian dictatorship get such crazy ideas?
Posted on 5/22/22 at 9:12 am to Centinel
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So Russia abandoning the second largest city and biggest industrial city in the country isn't a major front? Your focus seems rather selective. Why is that?
Yawn…Destroying the army is more important than taking a city and depleting resources to maintain control of it.
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Do you still think Russia takes the entire country, captures the capital, destroys the entire Ukrainian Army, and forces the government to capitulate?
No, that’s incredibly stupid to think that
This post was edited on 5/22/22 at 9:13 am
Posted on 5/22/22 at 9:35 am to rowbear1922
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I’m not pro Russia by any means but NATO is the reason Russia I’d doing what they are doing.
BS
Ttump chastised NATO for being weak, not stepping up with the prescribed support, etc. He challenged NATO to do their jobs.
When Trump left office Putin saw his opening. He saw a weak Biden and a chance to increase Russian power in Europe. The Russians acted the same versus Carter and Obama.
This war is on Russia.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 9:48 am to doubleb
I just don't understand why NATO keeps admitting countries that contribute nothing to the mutual defense other than being small "trip-wire" countries. Montenegro or North Macedonia? I know why they join but it does not help NATO in any material sense.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 10:00 am to TigersnJeeps
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I just don't understand why NATO keeps admitting countries that contribute nothing to the mutual defense other than being small "trip-wire" countries. Montenegro or North Macedonia? I know why they join but it does not help NATO in any material sense.
Maybe for continuity. No question they don’t add much. Probably political more than anything.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 10:09 am to TigersnJeeps
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I just don't understand why NATO keeps admitting countries that contribute nothing to the mutual defense other than being small "trip-wire" countries. Montenegro or North Macedonia? I know why they join but it does not help NATO in any material sense.
It keeps the Establishment Dems and Rhino republicans hard at night
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