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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:16 pm to
Posted by VolInBavaria
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:16 pm to
Ol’ Rubio seems like he’s really enjoying this whole thing
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:17 pm to
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If the US and NATO decided to end this, it would be over in a week, with Russia being back to where they were after the fall.


You seem to be forgetting that Russia has nuclear weapons
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:17 pm to
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There was evidence that the current government and a lot of group are pro Nazi in Ukraine.


What evidence? Their president is Jewish.


Don't question the canned talking points, brah.
Posted by HoboDickCheese
The overpass
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:18 pm to
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Out of curiosity, does anyone know how many #Putin paratroopers a Russian II-76 usually carries?
The Il-76MD-90A can carry 126 paratroopers with parachutes, 145 personnel in a single-deck version and 225 in a double-deck version
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:18 pm to


Interesting theory, I guess.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:20 pm to
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Exactly. India has zero trust when it comes to China.


India has also refused to join the BRI, which while that pisses China off, all of India’s neighbors have joined and effectively surrounds them. They know they’re trapped and are terrified of China.
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
19165 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:21 pm to
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I’m astounded that this thread hasn’t been stickied yet.
Chicken and Co probably don’t feel like sifting through the bullshite
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:22 pm to
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There was evidence that the current government and a lot of group are pro Nazi in Ukraine.


What does this even mean? Nazis have been gone for 70+ years

Every nation has neo nazi guys. That doesn’t mean the govt is fascist. I could post links to Russian separatist groups that are full of neo nazis, just like Azov Battalion for Ukraine. It’s all just bs propaganda.
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:23 pm to
I think India had a cordial relationship with Russia but does not like China. They may be neutral if we only fight Russia, but would probably side with us against China
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177271 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:23 pm to
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What this mean?

Ground logistics has lost its mind and needs to be committed?
The logistics resemble something an insane individual would create?

Use better adjectives. They are available, free of charge, and will set you apart from the mindless bleating 2022 hordes.

Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:25 pm to
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You seem to be forgetting that Russia has nuclear weapons

You think Russia wants to exterminate itself to win the war in Ukraine? The notion that they will detonate nuclear weapons in this conflict is laughable.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105270 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:26 pm to
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Won’t matter. In the end Russia still has the same frame of mind when it comes to waging war that they always have. Keep sending in civilian/soldiers until there are none left. Just look at Stalingrad in WW2. Russia would just as likely killed their own soldiers as the Germans. It goes back to the old line up and shoot at each other mentality.

If anything, Russia is letting the rest of the world know how inept they are. If the US and NATO decided to end this, it would be over in a week, with Russia being back to where they were after the fall.






That shite doesn't work any more. Not even in Russia. Modern war is too costly in blood and treasure. Not even Putin can afford to throw lives and equipment away like that. Their economy struggles to produce what they do have and it will be hard to replace the losses.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33723 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:26 pm to
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I can’t imagine India allying with China. They know what China is all about.


They fight all the time at their border. youtube has some videos.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:26 pm to
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You think Russia wants to exterminate itself to win the war in Ukraine? The notion that they will detonate nuclear weapons in this conflict is laughable.


You think they are going to allow the US to show up and fight them head on and not consider using nukes?
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
30433 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:27 pm to
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I've seen numbers from the 120s to the 140s.


That is a lot! We would put 102 paratroopers on a C-17. Normally the paratrooper load out is about 50% less than the normal number of passengers a plane is designed for.
Posted by Palmetto98
Where the stars are big and bright
Member since Nov 2021
2145 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:27 pm to
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Every nation has neo nazi guys. That doesn’t mean the govt is fascist. I could post links to Russian separatist groups that are full of neo nazis, just like Azov Battalion for Ukraine. It’s all just bs propaganda.


Ukraine is the only country on earth that has a recognized neo Nazi regiment/political party. This is no where near the same of just having a Republican member that is rumored to be in bed with neo Nazis for example.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:28 pm to


Baby born two hours ago in the subway station in Kiev.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75085 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:28 pm to
@ELINTNews
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#BREAKING: Air Force Command of the Ukraine Armed Forces claims:

- Ukrainian Su-27 shot down Russian Su-25 flying towards Vinnytsia
- Ukrainian S-300 air defences shot down a Russian Su-25 and helicopter
- Ukrainian Su-27 shot down a Russian IL-76 near Vasylkiv
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:29 pm to
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If the US and NATO decided to end this, it would be over in a week, with Russia being back to where they were after the fall.



You seem to be forgetting that Russia has nuclear weapons


I've been trying to figure out the escalation strategy here, Nuclear doesn't seem like the way to go. Cyber Terrorism seems like a much better way to hurt the West more than we can hurt Russia back.
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
19165 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:30 pm to
Yeah but you’ll still always need infantry and at least APCs to actually seize and hold areas.
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