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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only

Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:47 pm to
Posted by Lowdermilk
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:47 pm to
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:47 pm to
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Was the fact that he was fired brought out in any way?


Jackson brought it up in the opening and during the testimony of his friend Brennan got in that he was fired for the text messages.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:50 pm to
Then yeah, don't call him.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:54 pm to
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I'm thinking that not calling Proctor goes along with the rest of the defense strategy of there was no pedestrian strike. Proctor does nothing for them when it comes to showing that there was not a pedestrian strike.



Yep. I assume, based on how the trial has gone, they came in with two goals. 1. Discredit certain witnesses. 2. Bring credit to the dog bite.

If a jury thinks certain witnesses were not trust worthy and if they are thinking that the only wounds on O'keefe (other than the back of his head) was possibly caused by a dog then there is no way they can convict KR.

And the more they discuss dog bites, they more the jury is thinking about it. So actually, come to think about it, this is playing perfect for the defense. They have spent a lot of time talking about how O'keefe's wounds appear to look like dog bites more than anything.

This jackass has spent the last two days trying to discredit the dog bite theory with little success.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

I'm thinking that not calling Proctor goes along with the rest of the defense strategy of there was no pedestrian strike. Proctor does nothing for them when it comes to showing that there was not a pedestrian strike.

I totally get that and I'm very happy they are going full force with the "he didn't get hit by a car" argument over the 3rd party culprit argument. I still just think there is so much there that would also point towards "bad investigation" and that there is no way under any circumstance that having Proctor up there could help the commonwealth. I don't think it will make or break the case, it's just me nitpicking what I would have done differently.
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
5257 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 1:59 pm to
Rentschler - "If you cant prove the the impact happened, then everything after that doesn't actually matter does it?

Just owned Hank on his own cross.

Love this dude.
Posted by 10tiger
Member since Jan 2021
282 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 2:10 pm to
This is the stuff that drives me insane about these interrogations. He’s perseverating on the glass in the nose currently. If his nose had glass in it from being struck by a vehicle, there would be obvious trauma to the face. He’s looking for an AHA! Moment when in reality he looks like an absolute idiot. It’s a moot point.
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 2:11 pm to
how can the prosecution talk about glass in the nose on a cross when the defense didn't bring it up
Posted by jclem11
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 2:12 pm to
What a sad weak soyboy cross from Hank.

Hank taking another frickin L. Nothing landed at all.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 2:21 pm to
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Just owned Hank on his own cross.


Unless I am perceiving it different, right now Hank is helping the defense, while they sit back and watch.

Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 2:52 pm to
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Unless I am perceiving it different, right now Hank is helping the defense, while they sit back and watch.


That's what I'm thinking. The more he questions this guy, the more he's convincing that there were never a hit by a car. Redirect is going to be good.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:07 pm to
I have had meetings all day today so I'm busy catching up. I'm still an hour or so behind but so far Rentschler demolished the CW's case and Aperture today. I don't know how Hank was able to continuously ask questions that let him say "John O'Keefe was not hit by a car". It's wild. I completely take back my statement a day or two ago about Hank probably being the best lawyer on either side.
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
6818 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:10 pm to
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How much does this trial cost for defense? This trial has gone on forever.
In a video I watched Karen and AJ spoke about the 1st trial being in the 700 to 800 million dollar mark but that was just back of napkin calculations. So you could only imagine on this one.
Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:11 pm to
Hank said no more witness or evidence after defense rests.

Rentschler and Dr. L broke that sad, poor bastard.
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 3:12 pm
Posted by BrewDrees95
Member since Jan 2021
468 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:13 pm to
Shocked they have no rebuttal
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
16385 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:13 pm to
I missed why the CW hired a special prosecutor for this. Is that normal?
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15075 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

In a video I watched Karen and AJ spoke about the 1st trial being in the 700 to 800 million dollar mark but that was just back of napkin calculations.


it was 7 to 8 million. not 700 to 800 million
Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
9767 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:14 pm to
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Shocked they have no rebuttal


Hank is totally felted and fricked. His brain and spirit have been broken the last couple of days.

He has been flailing and seething and reaching. He is done and fricked.

Suffah Hank suffah!
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15075 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:15 pm to
The Prosecution just stated that they are no longer putting up a rebuttal case.

So its likely that the defense rest tomorrow morning and they go straight into closing maybe?
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9767 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:17 pm to
Bev said closing arguments on Friday. Charge conference tomorrow and no jury.
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