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Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:18 pm to LSUBALLER
Not guilty
If a guilty verdict is returned the jury was tampered with.
If a guilty verdict is returned the jury was tampered with.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:46 pm to civiltiger07
Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:46 pm to Breadcrumbs
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:29 am to LSUBALLER
Not guilty on all counts. I can’t imagine anyone being able to find her guilty of any of it after the last two witnesses.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:12 am to 10tiger
What was the lesser charge the first jury hung on?
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:38 am to AlxTgr
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What was the lesser charge the first jury hung on?
one of the manslaughter charges that involved being under the influence.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:58 am to 10tiger
I think he was killed inside that house. Police coverup.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:58 am to civiltiger07
I have to say, hats off to the defense team. I will be the first to admit I was not sold on not calling Alberts Higgins or proctor but after the testimony of Dr Wolfe, Dr L, and the two ARCAA guys, I get it now. They learned from the last trial and made adjustments. Sometimes less is more, it sure seems that way in this case but only time will tell.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:07 am to 10tiger
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They learned from the last trial and made adjustments.
No doubt they learned that they went to hard at the conspiracy angle in the first trial.
Allowing the jury to reach the conclusion of Karen was framed on their own is much more powerful. Than the defense stating that Karen was framed and not being able to prove it
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:35 am to MFn GIMP
quote:Which is bullshite. A person's freedom is on the line.
With that said a lot of judges are very pro-state. As obvious as her bias is she’s not out of the norm.
From all appearances KR seems like a lunatic, and likely not guilty in the death of OJO, but everyone deserves a fair trial.
These pro state judges definitely need to be looked at.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:52 am to civiltiger07
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Not guilty
If a guilty verdict is returned the jury was tampered with.
0% chance that she gets a guilty verdict imo. I do think there's still a solid chance that there is a hung jury on at least some of the charges though.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:56 am to LSBoosie
Really? I guess in my mind if there is even question that she hit him, that’s an all or none. If you can’t say for certain she hit him, then you can’t flee the scene of an accident or be charged with vehicular manslaughter. Maybe I’m putting too much faith in the intelligence of the average American but I can’t even imagine them deliberating very long. I’m probably very wrong though
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:13 am to 10tiger
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Maybe I’m putting too much faith in the intelligence of the average American but I can’t even imagine them deliberating very long. I’m probably very wrong though
I would personally be a bit scared even if I didn't commit the crime based on how our communities are being indoctrinated, but thankfully in MA, you need all jurors to agree G/NG and there is no way all will agree in this specific case.
So hung jury or NG will be the result IMO and Bev and Hank will be left with egg on their face.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:14 am to 10tiger
quote:This could be important, but it probably also has to do with just how bad the prosecution's case was this time around. They could have easily just decided that other stuff wasn't necessary this time.
They learned from the last trial and made adjustments. Sometimes less is more, it sure seems that way in this case but only time will tell.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:24 am to AlxTgr
Why in the world is Lally doing this argument?
And of course lally misrepresented multiple things in his argument.
And of course lally misrepresented multiple things in his argument.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 9:26 am
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:25 am to idlewatcher
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I would personally be a bit scared
I'd be a wreck through the whole trial because everyone on any jury can see things in their own way. You have no idea who is thinking what and what juror is influencing other jury members, etc, etc.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:30 am to LSUBALLER
Guilty of manslaughter. She should be punished for driving that drunk.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:31 am to MBclass83
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Guilty of manslaughter. She should be punished for driving that drunk.
Albert or McCabe?
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:36 am to 10tiger
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Really? I guess in my mind if there is even question that she hit him, that’s an all or none. If you can’t say for certain she hit him, then you can’t flee the scene of an accident or be charged with vehicular manslaughter. Maybe I’m putting too much faith in the intelligence of the average American but I can’t even imagine them deliberating very long. I’m probably very wrong though
I mean we know from the last trial that the jury was apparently all in agreement on some charges but split on others. I personally don't think that they have proven that he was hit by a car, but I also thought that in the first trial and there were jurors that still voted guilty on some counts.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 9:39 am
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