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I’ve spent a few months in India (nice parts) and one thing strikes me

Posted on 8/15/26 at 4:12 am
Posted by VooDude
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 4:12 am
Everyone seems to hate the British and they blame their colonizers for their lack of progress. But in fact, their lack of progress is because the British left after WW2 (basically Hitler made Britain go broke and lose its empire).

But before then, Britain built their entire infrastructure including ports and rail networks, and unified Indian under a common language. That and the partition would have never happened.

But what have the British ever done for US?
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 4:30 am
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 4:19 am to
Pretty on-brand for third worlders. Blame the British who haven’t been in your country since 1945 for the fact that you have open high voltage electrical on every street corner and 50 people get run over by trains daily. Anyone who’s ever spent time around Indian people knows exactly why they’re one of the worst, dirtiest countries on earth and it ain’t because of a bunch of 110 year old British guys
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 4:28 am to
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I’ve spent a few months in India (nice parts)
I’ll never first-handedly know whether there are any “nice parts” of the Indian subcontinent.

Ain’t nearly enough intriguing juice in visiting there worth my squeezing.

The vast majority of the Indians I’ve met in the rest of the world in my life so far do not make me wish to see millions of more folks like them.

Sorry George Harrison, wherever you are.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 5:16 am to
At least for Britain, their overseas colonial empire, while providing some degree of benefit for them (access to resources and manpower they might not have had otherwise), it was a net loss/cost for them and a net gain/benefit for virtually every place they "colonized".

And they're hated for it...
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 5:20 am to
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Everyone seems to hate the British and they blame their colonizers for their lack of progress

Goes for Africa, and Jamaica too.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 5:40 am to
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At least for Britain, their overseas colonial empire, while providing some degree of benefit for them (access to resources and manpower they might not have had otherwise), it was a net loss/cost for them and a net gain/benefit for virtually every place they "colonized".

And they're hated for it...

It was a great boon to Britain, and they made fortunes. Eventually it became a net loss because the colonized people were resisting.

It was so lucrative that the Dutch were run out of there by the British. Napoleon strongly considered an overland assault from Egypt, and Russia fought with the British for a hundred years to gain the approaches to India in Central Asia.

If you still doubt how lucrative it was consider this. Britain did not manage India. It was managed by a private for profit company. It wasn’t until about 1850 - half way through the British reign there - that the British government took back control. And this was done because the British East India Company had become so rich it had become too powerful.
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 5:46 am
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 5:44 am to
I’ve made multiple trips to India and the thing that strikes me is the smell. Now, even years later if I sit here and think about it, I can smell India.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
22071 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 5:51 am to
Pathetic people. Always making excuses. Everyone makes excuses which is why they are where they are.
Posted by SmelvinRat
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:01 am to
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:46 am to
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I’ve spent a few months in India

I hope you wiped your feet and washed your hands.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:48 am to
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I’ve spent a few months in India (nice parts) and one thing strikes me

I thought this was going to be an olfactory observation.
Posted by cfish140
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:50 am to
Was in East Africa last month and they didn’t seem to hold anything against the British. English is now even the national language of Kenya. They seemed thankful more than anything

Reading “Shantaram” now which takes place in Mumbai in the 80s and it sounds like a wild place and definitely not for your average traveler.
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 6:52 am
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20884 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:58 am to
I mean, the British do suck. Absolutely suck. So I don’t blame them.

Also, I know some well to do Indians and they love the British. I’m friends with one and she said they always try to go to Britain first before they come to America.

My friend’s family banned her from visiting the UK because their eldest daughter became a doctor in the UK and shouldn’t be bothered by “silly sibling distraction” from her important job
Posted by Ace Midnight
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96699 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 7:20 am to
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If you still doubt how lucrative it was consider this.


It was lucrative in private hands.

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It was managed by a private for profit company.


Yes.

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Eventually it became a net loss because the colonized people were resisting.


And they had to maintain a very expensive global security infrastructure (AKA The Royal Navy)

Plus, as you know, if you run a government like a business, services suffer, costs skyrocket and people vote it out. If you run a business like a government, you go broke with the quickness.

So, they probably should have just taxed the business a bit more rather than taking over.

And my point stands: It was a net negative to Britain and they're still hated for it. India and other English/British colonies gained more from being colonized by Britain than the British did. The fact these colonized folks either couldn't or wouldn't maintain it and build on it is on them.

#Facts
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 7:21 am to
Just about every former British colony is much better off for what the Brits did. The former French colonies? Not so much.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
18134 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 7:23 am to
The Brits gave us the bill of rights, which makes it very easy to explain to anyone they colonialized (including the Irish) why Americans have a "stupid" obsession with guns, etc. To explain why we have an amendment for guns, and one barring the quartering of soldiers, which seemed weird to them, I just said, "think about what the Brits did to you." The penny dropped.

This book was excellent. Sir Alan Burns seems to be the cream of the crop when it comes to colonial benevolence. The negatives of colonialism are also discussed. However, one of the biggest causes of colonial collapse in the third world was the way the the colonial powers essentially pulled a Biden in Afghanistan, and left the nascent governments unable to deal with the consequences.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
34148 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 7:25 am to
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I’ve made multiple trips to India and the thing that strikes me is the smell. Now, even years later if I sit here and think about it, I can smell India.

It travels to the US too. It’s a lack of hygiene
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
54419 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 7:25 am to
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they blame their colonizers for their lack of progress


When any group cant cut the mustard they will always blame someone else, because power seekers use it as political force to gain more power and money. There are entire industries based on blame hustling.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
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Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 7:50 am to
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When any group cant cut the mustard they will always blame someone else, because power seekers use it as political force to gain more power and money. There are entire industries based on blame hustling.


You just described the race hustlers here in the USA perfectly.
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
14338 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 7:58 am to
The only good thing to ever come from India.

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