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re: Israel–Hamas War Discussion Thread: News Links On First Page
Posted on 10/9/23 at 11:43 am to FutureCorridor49
Posted on 10/9/23 at 11:43 am to FutureCorridor49
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You can 100% support Israel in this (as I do) but also feel great sympathy for all the everyday Palestinians whose lives are about to get fricked up.
Can these two groups of people ever co-exist?
I don’t claim to fully understand the complexities of their geo-political relationship, but it seems to me one side is more prone to attack soft targets, kids, women, and the elderly.
With 1/2 of Syria now living in Germany, maybe it would better to relocate the people in Gaza. Syria has plenty of room.
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 11:43 am to Chucktown_Badger
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Maybe they should've thought about their countrymen and women when they decided to do this. You don't get to wholesale slaughter innocents and expect nothing in retribution.
Right. And every drop of blood that co.es from this will be on Hamas. Every Jew and every innocent Palestinian that gets caught up in this is a direct result of the actions of Hamas. No one else.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 11:43 am to cypresstiger
We allow idiots to say stupid shite. It’s America.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 11:44 am to TigersSEC2010
I think the worst case scenario is Hezbollah joining the fight on the scale they did in 2006 and then Israel basically trying to reoccurs the Gaza Strip and southern Lebanon causing so much collateral damage and civilian casualties that other Arab nations feel they have no choice but to engage Israel militarily.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 11:44 am to Jim Rockford
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Hamas has been preparing for urbn combat for years but Israel will not go house to house like we did in Fallujah. They'll put a JDAM through anything that looks like a fortification and move on to the next one. Unfortunately I don't see many of the hostages making it out alive.
Israeli Soldiers: Gaza bombing will continue even if the Israeli hostages get hurt unless we receive accurate information about their place.
Source: Al Jazeera
Posted on 10/9/23 at 11:45 am to IAmNERD
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Every Jew and every innocent Palestinian that gets caught up in this is a direct result of the actions of Hamas. No one else.
Well, and Iran
Posted on 10/9/23 at 11:45 am to Jim Rockford
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Hamas has been preparing for urbn combat for years but Israel will not go house to house like we did in Fallujah. They'll put a JDAM through anything that looks like a fortification and move on to the next one. Unfortunately I don't see many of the hostages making it out alive.
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Israeli Army Radio, a Station ran by the Israeli Defense Force, has stated On-Air that they will continue Airstrikes on Hamas Positions in the Gaza Strip even at the Risk of Harming the Hostages.
@OsintDefender and others reporting this.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 11:46 am to Chucktown_Badger
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Maybe they should've thought about their countrymen and women when they decided to do this. You don't get to wholesale slaughter innocents and expect nothing in retribution.
I think the point is they don't care about the "Palestinians".. Hamas & Hezbollah have their own agendas and the "Palestinians" are merely a tool for them to exploit..
Posted on 10/9/23 at 11:46 am to MrLSU
Posted on 10/9/23 at 11:49 am to MrLSU
Israel kind of has to do this or it gives validation to that hostage tactic.
The Gaza Strip really isn’t that large when you look at it as an overlay of common references.
LINK
Not a lot of operational “ground to cover”, so to speak, if all you want to do is blow shite
Correction: this is population density.
The Boston overlay will give the closest comparison for size as it has almost the same population density as the Gaza Strip
The Gaza Strip really isn’t that large when you look at it as an overlay of common references.
LINK
Not a lot of operational “ground to cover”, so to speak, if all you want to do is blow shite
Correction: this is population density.
The Boston overlay will give the closest comparison for size as it has almost the same population density as the Gaza Strip
This post was edited on 10/9/23 at 11:55 am
Posted on 10/9/23 at 11:50 am to Rebel
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Can these two groups of people ever co-exist?
Not without one side completely turning the other cheek. Every generation will have people going through life with a hatred of the other and having little regard for them because they were both suffered horrible losses. Not to mention there is too much political power to be amassed on either side by having a continuous enemy.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 11:52 am to Hateradedrink
Posted on 10/9/23 at 11:54 am to dr
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people need to get this! brics and gold will bring down the fed
Most people can’t be bothered to learn basic personal finance, much less have any notion of how our financial system works.
They think we can just print money forever with no consequences and then get confused why their grocery bill has doubled.
Loss of reserve status ->
Runaway inflation ->
Economic collapse
Posted on 10/9/23 at 11:56 am to Rebel
quote:i dont think so
Can these two groups of people ever co-exist?
one of my buddies from college was jordanian palestinian. legtimiately a good guy who is very secular and just a normal human being. for whatever reason though, that stopped at anything regarding israel. like if we were watching something with natalie portman, he would just leave. and he grew up here.
i honestly dont know how you can reconcile with these two people. the shite is too pervasive and it ecompases good, every day people, who probably would never actively participate in the acts of terror that hamas just performed, but gun to their heads, probably wouldnt stop it either
its just fricked. israel cant continue to live like this, but the answer is so awful that idk how they can take the measures necessary without a shite ton of blood on their hands
This post was edited on 10/9/23 at 11:58 am
Posted on 10/9/23 at 12:01 pm to WestCoastAg
Massive airstrikes right now on the Reuters cam
Posted on 10/9/23 at 12:01 pm to MrLSU
Fwiw, Yaffa Adar hasn't been returned. The daughter spoke to this a few hours ago.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 12:04 pm to WestCoastAg
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blood on their hands
At this point, outside of lining up civilians and executing them (Palestinian style), no blood spilled in Gaza is on Israel's hands.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 12:10 pm to WestCoastAg
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its just fricked. israel cant continue to live like this, but the answer is so awful that idk how they can take the measures necessary without a shite ton of blood on their hands
I feel bad for the children and women. The images I’ve seen on X are savage. But something needs to happen. We can’t be on the brink of a world war every time Iran decides to fund Hamas.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 12:12 pm to MrLSU
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Israel just dropped something huge on Hamas.
Sounds like a pretty standard either 1000 pound bomb or possibly a 2000 pounder (delayed fuse, hardened case bunker buster). Doesn't sound like a Daisy Cutter or MOAB class ordnance
Posted on 10/9/23 at 12:13 pm to Jim Rockford
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Hamas has been preparing for urbn combat for years but Israel will not go house to house like we did in Fallujah. They'll put a JDAM through anything that looks like a fortification and move on to the next one. Unfortunately I don't see many of the hostages making it out alive.
I don't disagree but fwiw even using those tactics in Mosul in 16-19 the Iraqis still had an estimated 5k KIA. That's with US artillery, air power and even ground troops backing them up. The Israelis are taking on a massive task here if they're going to invade and reoccupy Gaza. Granted the Israelis are better trained than the Iraqis but still, this is going to be an awful fight. Gaza has 2 million ppl crammed into it, Fallujah only had 350k and Mosul only about one million.
For perspective they had 120 KIA in 2006 fighting Hezbollah, they took 44 just yesterday and if you look at the casualties on sites like Ynet and Haaretz a very disproportionate amount were from their special forces units.
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