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re: Israel–Hamas War Discussion Thread: News Links On First Page
Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:09 pm to Burt Orangello
Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:09 pm to Burt Orangello
quote:my GUESS:
Even still, there’s got to be more to it. A 240mm is way bigger than a Qassam and has a warhead about 5x heavier. It could land in the middle of a 500 person drum circle and probably not kill all 500.
The death toll count is off or there was a bigger “issue.”
A) this was at the launcher; they tend to setup 3-5 launchers with the rockets on the rails
B) it detonated on the rails and/or simply fell over detonating the other warheads (which would be detectable due to delay by surveillance) nearby
C) in a courtyard or some central and somewhat enclosed space, amplifying they detonation wave and the return wave (blast wave and blast wind) increasing the casualties.
D) casualties were most certainly exaggerated when they thought they could blame on the IDF.
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:09 pm to I20goon
quote:
"Gaza Health Ministry",
Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:11 pm to tigerpimpbot
@RitchieTorres (NY Congressman)
Xwitter
quote:
The anti-Israel Twitter mob is rushing to condemn Israel for the bombing of a hospital without knowing the facts—that is what mobs do.
In the fog of war, amid an atmosphere of disinformation, why not reserve judgment and wait for the facts to emerge? The reason is simple:
Facts can get in the way of The Narrative. Israel must be guilty, the truth be damned.
Xwitter
Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:13 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Or a rocket that hit an ammo storage sight, maybe?
Or a rocket that didn't make it anywhere near its intended target and still had a bunch of fuel still on board and made the explosion bigger?
Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:13 pm to I20goon
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C) in a courtyard or some central and somewhat enclosed space, amplifying they detonation wave and the return wave (blast wave and blast wind) increasing the casualties.
We know there was a courtyard involved, as people were camping/sheltering there and it was initially reported as part of the hospital that was hit.
ETA: People were reportedly sheltering all over the hospital grounds.
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:20 pm to LegendInMyMind
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This has already set off a chain of events that is going to be difficult to reel back in.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:24 pm to Chicken
I appreciate your sentiment. I felt the same way last week.
Should you feel openminded, spend 30 minutes listening to a professor who's parents were both in Nazi concentration camps, and has been studying this subject for 40 years. Jimmy Dore podcast, "The Palensians Had No Other Choice"
They're going to keep killing each other for decades; I wish it wasn't with our borrowed tax dollars. Bless our children.
Obviously, it's your board, and your choice as to how much it echoes.
Should you feel openminded, spend 30 minutes listening to a professor who's parents were both in Nazi concentration camps, and has been studying this subject for 40 years. Jimmy Dore podcast, "The Palensians Had No Other Choice"
They're going to keep killing each other for decades; I wish it wasn't with our borrowed tax dollars. Bless our children.
Obviously, it's your board, and your choice as to how much it echoes.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:26 pm to Grassy1
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Jimmy Dore podcast, "The Palensians Had No Other Choice"
Yeah, frick that.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:32 pm to OleVaught14
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100%. Seems like half the world had already released a statement blaming Israel. It'll be impossible to put all this back in the bottle
Yeah most people will still believe it’s Israel at fault even if it’s proven not to be
Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:34 pm to Grassy1
quote:
I appreciate your sentiment. I felt the same way last week. Should you feel openminded, spend 30 minutes listening to a professor whose parents were both in Nazi concentration camps, and has been studying this subject for 40 years. Jimmy Dore podcast, "The Palensians Had No Other Choice"
Jimmy Dore is a severely biased source of information.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:36 pm to Grassy1
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"The Palensians Had No Other Choice"
Your daily reminder what Hamas did. (Extremely graphic video, click at your own risk.)
Today a top Hamas commander was killed by a targeted strike.....on a refugee camp. That's Hamas.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:36 pm to LegendInMyMind
Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:37 pm to 1BamaRTR
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Yeah most people will still believe it’s Israel at fault even if it’s proven not to be
Yeah but this works both ways. Some people will still defend Israel even if it's proven to be deliberate by them.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:37 pm to OldmanBeasley
Have the terrorist blamed Israel for bombing baby milk factories yet?
Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:39 pm to MrLSU
There's a longer version of that video/coverage that shows an initial rocket launch/barrage. I posted it a bit ago. Kind of gives a better idea how it may have played out.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:43 pm to Grassy1
Shut the hell up
Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:44 pm to Smeg
quote:It’s truly awful but the very fact that people don’t think Israel may be capable of doing this, is very concerning.
Yeah but this works both ways. Some people will still defend Israel even if it's proven to be deliberate by them.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:13 pm to au4you
@sentdefender
Xwitter
Xwitter
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Footage has been released from Northern Gaza earlier tonight which appears to possibly show a Rocket launched by Palestinian Groups in the Strip having Exploded for an Unknown Reason causing Debris to Rain Down resulting in the Explosion and subsequent Fire at Al-Ahli Arabi Baptist Hospital; this is Direct Evidence that the Explosion was indeed caused by a Misfired-Rocket and not by an Israeli Airstrike.
Xwitter
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The Building seen on Fire in the Footage is Confirmed to be the Hospital in Northern Gaza.
Xwitter
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:15 pm to au4you
The fact that hamas is known for doing dumb/evil shite like this and Israel isn’t is all the proof I need to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Facts in this have backed that up (yet again) while clowns like you look stupid (yet again).
Facts in this have backed that up (yet again) while clowns like you look stupid (yet again).
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:19 pm to LegendInMyMind
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The anti-Israel Twitter mob is rushing to condemn Israel for the bombing of a hospital without knowing the facts—that is what mobs do. In the fog of war, amid an atmosphere of disinformation, why not reserve judgment and wait for the facts to emerge? The reason is simple: Facts can get in the way of The Narrative. Israel must be guilty, the truth be damned.
The beheaded babies are fake news people and the Israel blew up the hospital people Venn diagram is just a single circle.
I have no idea who blew up the hospital. But this reaction is unfortunately part of why I hope Israel proceeds with caution. The best revenge is continuing to exist and thrive. Do what you need to do to secure your borders and your people going forward. But I see nothing but disaster in moving major personnel into Gaza.
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