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re: Interesting Article On Lack Of Black Medical Students

Posted on 4/7/16 at 4:42 pm to
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 4:42 pm to
Seems pretty simple to me. On average, AAs are the least intelligent race among any of the races considered in this discussion. On average, Eastern Asians are the more intelligent followed by Whites. Now, that does not mean that a black person can't be the smartest person in the world and a white or Asian be the dumbest; however, those are outliers. On the average, the fact is that AAs are inferior to other races when it comes to intelligence.
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 4:53 pm
Posted by onelochevy
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2011
18316 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 4:44 pm to
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On the average, the fact is that AAs are inferior to other races when it comes to intelligence.


But it's our fault so let's lower the standards to make them feel equal.
Posted by nvcowboyfan
James Turner Street, Birmingham,UK
Member since Nov 2007
2992 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:09 pm to
I quit a position on a medical school admissions board because I could not handle watching better qualified white applicants get turned down for token minority candidates that had lousy chances of ever finishing medical school.
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
Member since Mar 2014
11004 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:12 pm to
How does it affect TOPS??
Posted by Melvin Spellvin
proud dad of 2 A&M honor grads
Member since Jul 2015
1676 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:18 pm to
I don't understand why every kid from south LA with proven Cajun heritage and wants to be a doc doesnt apply to medical school based on ethnicity, we aren't even listed as a minority however we are placed in the "other" category and are maybe three places behind the percentage decimal point...

Just saying what's good for one is good for all...
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1164 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:36 pm to
Well, I am nearly blind, short, ugly, and grew up so poor that I generally wore hand me down shoes and clothes. My father beat the hell out of me if I didn't try hard at school or if I whined about my lot in life. I know a lot of black people are poor but we aren't all born rich or otherwise advantaged. What I see are a lot (certainly not all) of black people who complain about the hand God dealt them rather than deciding to do what needs to be done, regardless of hardships. The black community needs to have black people refuse to accept excuses, quit making this a blame game and get kids to work harder. It isn't as much about IQ as culture, a culture of blaming someone else for everything.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 6:03 pm to
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There are geniuses living under bridges across this country right now and working in cubicles. There probably are not many sub-90 IQ people working as surgeons though...no matter how hard they work. That is genetic. Is it harsh? Depends on how you look at it...but it is reality.



I agree with everything you are saying, except for how it applies to a specific race. People definitely have their own limitations. I would ask how do we know there are not more "geniuses living under bridges" in the black community that we don't know about due to the current culture of the class they are in? And by genius, I really only mean above average intelligence. It's easy to have those people hidden.

Not saying genetics don't play a role. Just saying with all other variables, it's simple minded to think blacks are just dumber and they'll always be that way.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 6:12 pm to
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On the average, the fact is that AAs are inferior to other races when it comes to intelligence.


Did you get this from the Mississippi official state book of redneck facts???


Take a group of middle class white suburban people and take away all education for a few generations. Instill a culture similar to what blacks have by keeping them in slums. Throw them back into society. You'd walk around saying they were idiots and somehow genetically they were less than you. We did it with every group in America for some time (Irish, Italians, etc.). I'd say the only reason black's are still in the situation is because they were kept just a little bit lower (I mean they weren't considered citizens for some time), and they look so much different as opposed to an Irish or Italian immigrant who looked like any other European. We are now feeding the cycle with welfare programs.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 6:19 pm to
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So you believe we are made physically different but that doesn't include our brains? Ok.



I just don't think there's any actual evidence. There's a good theory as to why AA's have a higher rate of sickle cell anemia. There's a good theory as to why they have longer limbs (heat rejection in hotter climates). There are holes in the crackpot theories that they have lower IQS since they do bad in school. There are just too many other variables that could possibly and likely be causing the issues. Yes a genius might be able to learn calculus on their own, but an intelligent person needs their brainpower to be nurtured. Until I believe the percentage of black families raising their kids well is the same as other races and we eliminate many of these variables, I won't paint a broad picture of the entire race's intelligence.
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 6:27 pm
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
10379 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 6:21 pm to
If this is what that chick sees when she sees a chart like this then she doesn't deserve to be a doctor for the sake of patients everywhere and medicine as a whole
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
7115 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 6:47 pm to
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I still keep up with a couple of my black classmates that finished and they are doing very well, most doing primary care near their homes.
But the ones that flunked out essentially wasted a couple years of their life and now have tons of debt.



You think they were paying tuition like you and I were?!?!?

That's cute
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 6:56 pm to
Maybe he's talking about actual facts, as they are now, instead of random theories that you come up with?
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5121 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 6:59 pm to



The scariest thing about this chart....

All the people regardless of race that fall into every column except for the last. Those stats should be the bare minimum.
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 7:00 pm
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 7:02 pm to
How do poor test scores equate to lack of intelligence when there are obviously so many other factors. To say AA's have poor test scores and lack education compared to other races is factual. That is the only fact we know. To take those facts and say they are genetically dumber is to make a theory. And it's a bad one knowing everything we know own about them and the culture surrounding the race. And one I would say it's heavily influenced by racist feelings.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 7:07 pm to
Picking a doctor is one activity where it is perfectly okay to be "racist".

The odds of getting a space eating quota motherfricker are quite high, too high when a shitty doc can kill you.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
7115 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 7:15 pm to
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If more blacks grow up in environments that nurture education and learning, then the achievement gaps will close, IMO.



I completely agree with you. IMHO, I think most folks on this board would agree you, bud.
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 7:30 pm to
Change must come from within, and by and large, the black community is too concerned with playing the victim card and expecting hand-outs than to address their own elephant(s) in the room and call a spade a spade.

Continuing to throw money at the "problem" is not the solution.
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 7:31 pm
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3250 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 7:35 pm to
That chart is scary...and although unintentional, it does make me question the veracity of minority MDs. Why can't grades simply decide acceptance to medical school? Isn't it inherently racist to have a different set of standards for different races? Full disclosure-I am an RN and I live In the Bay Area so I am an "sjw" by default.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 7:41 pm to


Holy shite. It's good to know my bias against black doctors taking care of me is warranted.

On a random note, does anyone know why this shite is happening and only getting worse? It's happening because all you white DINKs think you're too smart to have kids. Guess who IS having kids and now they are taking over and making the rules work in their favor???
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 7:45 pm to
They don't develop the skills throughout adoescence to be considered intelligent in my book. Obviously that's not across the board, but it happens to a large number of them. One thing leads to another.

If they were your definition of intelligent, their college grades would more closely match every other race, and affirmative action wouldn't be needed.
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