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re: Interesting Article On Lack Of Black Medical Students

Posted on 4/7/16 at 8:43 pm to
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 8:43 pm to
No, I bet she's wondering how a dumbshit with a 24 on the MCAT and a 3.2 GPA gets accepted at a higher rate than someone with a 30 MCAT and a 3.5 GPA.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 8:49 pm to


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No, I bet she's wondering how a dumb shite with a 24 on the MCAT and a 3.2 GPA gets accepted at a higher rate than someone with a 30 MCAT and a 3.5 GPA.


I wonder how those 12% of white students with a 24 and 3.2 got accepted when 7% of black students with 30 and 3.6 didn't.

We want the best applicants correct?

This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 8:50 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79907 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 8:53 pm to
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I wonder how those 12% of white students with a 24 and 3.2 got accepted when 7% of black students with 30 and 3.6 didn't.


They do interviews and some of the acceptance is based on that. But, sure, let's focus on that 7% and not the 42% that I was referencing.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17604 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:07 pm to
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We are privileged to be descended from Europeans. That doesn't imply we should feel badly or that other races should get extra breaks at our expense. But denying it is stupid.


bullshite.

There are a ton of European descendents in this country that are trash as frick. Don't disgrace my family by claiming the simple pigment of your skin makes one better than another.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:45 pm to
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I'd like to see the actual numbers behind those percentages. I bet the pool of white applicants is 10x that of blacks.


So fricking what? If you threw all the names into the same pool, assuming all the merits are roughly equal for a given scoring range, the percentages should be nearly equal for every race. That the percentages are the way they are can only be caused by blatant discrimination. Honestly I'm shocked these schools haven't been sued yet.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 5:38 am to
There's a much bigger reason for this. And it's not the fault of any person. group, race, or system.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16756 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 9:05 am to
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So fricking what? If you threw all the names into the same pool, assuming all the merits are roughly equal for a given scoring range, the percentages should be nearly equal for every race. That the percentages are the way they are can only be caused by blatant discrimination. Honestly I'm shocked these schools haven't been sued yet.


As in discrimination against whites?
Posted by TMT_30312
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
11 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 9:22 am to
Jewish families seem to value education very highly, as do Asian and Indian families. Perhaps they can teach the rest of us something about culture
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16756 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 9:27 am to
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Jewish families seem to value education very highly, as do Asian and Indian families. Perhaps they can teach the rest of us something about culture


Unfortunately, it appears that we are moving in a direction that does not value hard work. You cannot have quality education without hard work.

I don't think that Jewish families, Asian families or Indian families value education so much as they value excellence. Excellence manifests is all areas of life, including (and maybe especially) education. Education is a foundation that you build upon with more hard work.

People want something for nothing now and cry foul when they do not get it...relying on weak-minded identity politics excuses.

Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 9:50 am to
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I knew a few grad students at LSU who were from Africa. They were some smart MOFOs


The problem for LSU (and students applying to LSU) is sort of like this:

There is a finite number of qualified students from every race. The Ivy Leagues get their pick of the best students of all races. Add a quota or some sort of diversity goal to increase the number of black students, and these schools have to lower their standards slightly or provide incentive packages to attract more black students.

Of course, this causes a problem with diversity goal s and quotas at the next-lower tier schools like Michigan, Penn State, etc. as it limits their pool of black applicants. They offer incentives to less qualified black applicants to encourage more enrollment.

This causes a similar squeeze on the next lower tier schools.....and so on.

That doesn't mean they can't find qualified applicants, it just means that a lot of higher performing students that would otherwise fill those slots are at better schools. In order to maintain enrollment, they offer incentives or lower standards to encourage students they normally wouldn't try to bring in.

At the lower end of the hierarchy, schools like Southern U or Grambling ends up taking anyone with a pulse, bringing down the average of the entire subset.
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