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re: Increasing Levels of Teen Suicide
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:59 pm to Epic Cajun
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:59 pm to Epic Cajun
Both politically and socially, we're teaching kids to catastrophize. Credit Haidt/Lukianoff for that observation, which I reference on here a lot.
Some specific ones are easy -
- Racism is worse than ever before, if you're silent and just trying to live your life, you're contributing to the dehumanization of people and if you're a minority you have to internalize the fact that everyone hates you and thinks you're subhuman
- You can change your gender, even though you'll never, ever be satisfied and will have astronomically higher likelihood of self harm if you go down this path, you should absolutely do it! Anyone who says you're not what you claim to be is trying to eliminate your existence, it's genocide!
That adults, media, major corporations and the US government are - as a matter of course - promoting these ideas is just insane. If you sought out a psych consult because you thought the world was out to get you, you'd likely get therapy to help you to recognize that it is, in fact, not out to get you. Yet as a culture, we're telling 10 year olds that the most wild, reckless, ridiculous worst case scenarios are true and not only true, it's probably far worse than you can imagine. Pure insanity.
But beyond the woke stuff, which is probably the easiest example, we just facilitate catastrophizing by young people in all elements of life. Regardless of the issue, YOU MUST ACT. You can't stay silent! Silence is literal violence! So combine any issue, say global warming, with this concept, and year, 12 year olds are going to get unduly stressed, and ultimately, depressed.
At this risk of doing it myself, you really can't overstate how destructive our cultural attitudes to this stuff are.
Some specific ones are easy -
- Racism is worse than ever before, if you're silent and just trying to live your life, you're contributing to the dehumanization of people and if you're a minority you have to internalize the fact that everyone hates you and thinks you're subhuman
- You can change your gender, even though you'll never, ever be satisfied and will have astronomically higher likelihood of self harm if you go down this path, you should absolutely do it! Anyone who says you're not what you claim to be is trying to eliminate your existence, it's genocide!
That adults, media, major corporations and the US government are - as a matter of course - promoting these ideas is just insane. If you sought out a psych consult because you thought the world was out to get you, you'd likely get therapy to help you to recognize that it is, in fact, not out to get you. Yet as a culture, we're telling 10 year olds that the most wild, reckless, ridiculous worst case scenarios are true and not only true, it's probably far worse than you can imagine. Pure insanity.
But beyond the woke stuff, which is probably the easiest example, we just facilitate catastrophizing by young people in all elements of life. Regardless of the issue, YOU MUST ACT. You can't stay silent! Silence is literal violence! So combine any issue, say global warming, with this concept, and year, 12 year olds are going to get unduly stressed, and ultimately, depressed.
At this risk of doing it myself, you really can't overstate how destructive our cultural attitudes to this stuff are.
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Posted on 5/1/23 at 8:02 pm to BigPerm30
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When I was in high school, when you didn’t get invited to a party chances are you never found out. Now these frickers blast every second all over social media.
I’ve seen several kids cancel their parties because someone they didn’t invite bullied them calling them racist or whatever tear they felt fit the reason for being excluded.
It never stops and comes at these kids from all angle
Posted on 5/1/23 at 8:49 pm to Giantkiller
Facebook and friends is the answer to your problem
Posted on 5/1/23 at 8:54 pm to Giantkiller
Imagine hitting puberty, and not a single adult is honest enough to tell you what a man or woman is. We've removed the most basic of stability for kids. It's criminal.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 8:57 pm to Taxing Authority
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We've removed the most basic of stability for kids. It's criminal.
This is true. Kids need some kind of structure and value system. They need predictability and accountability.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 5/1/23 at 9:06 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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The entire mental health industry has about as much credibility as dowsing or tarot card reading.
C'mon brah
Posted on 5/1/23 at 9:06 pm to Pettifogger
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Some specific ones are easy
3 sentences have destroyed our society and they each flow into the other:
God doesn’t exist.
The truth is always and only what you say it is.
You are and always will be a victim.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 5/1/23 at 9:12 pm to Richard Grayson
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God is dead.
There is no such thing as universal truth.
You are and always will be a victim.
Feels like mass Nihilism that's overtaken a generation.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 9:12 pm to 9Fiddy
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It’s not just kids. My best friend is 50 years old and spends all day glued to the news and Twitter and the doom and gloom sites. He is slowly turning into Mel Gibson from Conspiracy Theory. If it can happen to a college educated man, imagine what it’s doing to the kids.
Don't forget parents who talk about their doom scrolling in front of their kids all day.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 9:16 pm to Marciano1
Sometimes it's not social media. Not social media. Not bullies. It's hard being a teen.
That's why i said earlier that parents and school administrators need to be in tune with students.
They're young people. They are not fully formed intellectually. Guidance and assistance are more important than strict enforcement.
That's why i said earlier that parents and school administrators need to be in tune with students.
They're young people. They are not fully formed intellectually. Guidance and assistance are more important than strict enforcement.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 9:37 pm to Giantkiller
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You hear various reasons for the increases.. The fact that we as human beings are now inundated with a constant barrage of information that never ends. Not to mention the rigors of teenage life now being paired with this ability to document every waking second of their lives.
This is it. Social media is an addictive cancer.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 9:40 pm to Giantkiller
fricking social media man
Posted on 5/1/23 at 9:42 pm to thegambler
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I know there is a lot of pressure on these youngsters at school and at home. A lot more than in my youth.
Why?
Life was more of a struggle to survive 50 years ago. Pathetic what we have become when that struggle to actually exist is no longer there
Posted on 5/1/23 at 9:49 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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C'mon brah
Around half of psychology studies fail to replicate. If any other field had a failure rate that high the entire thing would be thrown out.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 9:55 pm to Cosmo
Social media is definitely a factor in some, I’m sure, but don’t overlook mental health.
Real mental health, not stupid safe space crap. I’m talking real depression caused by chemicals in your brain.
I’ve felt it before and never in my life would I have thought that mental health shite was real until I had panic attacks and couldn’t make them stop. You can’t just stop thinking about it and it goes away. It’s a chemical imbalance in your brain and if it sets in, brother it’s in and it’s hell.
While your brain is affected, you can’t see the light at the end of the tunnel. You can’t imagine it will ever stop or go away.
Never in my life have I thought about suicide until the panic attack set in and the only thing I could think of that would make it stop was dying. Fortunately, I understood what was happening and knew damn well I didn’t want to die no matter what. But that doesn’t stop the feeling that the only way to make it stop is to die. It’s scary as hell.
I don’t wish that feeling on anyone. It’s important to know that it will stop and it will get better. That’s the only way to get through a real panic attack. The last one I had lasted 12 days. 12 days with zero relief.
If anyone ever feels this way, go to a psychologist and get meds. If it’s happening to you now, go to a primary doctor today and get temporary meds and then schedule a visit with a shrink for long term care.
For those who cannot understand, imagine having your hands handcuffed behind your back for 12 days with absolutely no way to uncuff them. That’s how you feel, you have no control and cannot change it.
Real mental health, not stupid safe space crap. I’m talking real depression caused by chemicals in your brain.
I’ve felt it before and never in my life would I have thought that mental health shite was real until I had panic attacks and couldn’t make them stop. You can’t just stop thinking about it and it goes away. It’s a chemical imbalance in your brain and if it sets in, brother it’s in and it’s hell.
While your brain is affected, you can’t see the light at the end of the tunnel. You can’t imagine it will ever stop or go away.
Never in my life have I thought about suicide until the panic attack set in and the only thing I could think of that would make it stop was dying. Fortunately, I understood what was happening and knew damn well I didn’t want to die no matter what. But that doesn’t stop the feeling that the only way to make it stop is to die. It’s scary as hell.
I don’t wish that feeling on anyone. It’s important to know that it will stop and it will get better. That’s the only way to get through a real panic attack. The last one I had lasted 12 days. 12 days with zero relief.
If anyone ever feels this way, go to a psychologist and get meds. If it’s happening to you now, go to a primary doctor today and get temporary meds and then schedule a visit with a shrink for long term care.
For those who cannot understand, imagine having your hands handcuffed behind your back for 12 days with absolutely no way to uncuff them. That’s how you feel, you have no control and cannot change it.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 9:55 pm to fallguy_1978
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I think it affects many adults too.
Many adults are just as bad as the kids today but at least have more coping skills.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:01 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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C'mon brah
When you see the professors and the actual practicing doctors that push the trans stuff, hmmm. And the ones on the pysch side of it. fricking scary.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:02 pm to Giantkiller
4 suicides in Baton Rouge that I know of. 3 in high school and one 8th grader. All private schools.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:56 pm to Giantkiller
We have a teenage son and it's hard not to worry about things like this. One of his male classmates committed suicide last year and then we've had two other teenage boys in our neighborhood take their own lives. If you have a teenage boy, then maybe you agree with me on this: they are a total mess and it's driven by social media, gaming and a total lack of interest in things that we all once thought of as normal. Things like dating, dressing nice, using a hair brush. Boys today are unkept, uninterested and totally distracted by their phones. Very few of them have girlfriends or even go on dates and really, everything they want, they can get from their phone or computer.
Teens in general seem incapable of separating fact from fiction when it comes to social media and what I mean by that is, they look at their friends, followers, etc on social media platforms and compare their "perfect" lives to theirs, where they know there are flaws. It's very rare that someone posts on social media has crappy their lives are.
And I hate to say this but sometimes, parents don't help in the posting department. Again, nobody is going to post that their kid came home drunk, made a bad grade, etc. A friend of mine constantly posts about his son's good baseball games and the whole time I'm thinking, wow, his son is pretty good. Then I saw him play and found out he was hitting about .300. I've never seen the guy post about the games when the son went hitless with three strikeouts.
Sorry for the long rant but the creators of social media, specifically China with the creation of Tiktok have done a major number on our kids, especially teenage boys.
Teens in general seem incapable of separating fact from fiction when it comes to social media and what I mean by that is, they look at their friends, followers, etc on social media platforms and compare their "perfect" lives to theirs, where they know there are flaws. It's very rare that someone posts on social media has crappy their lives are.
And I hate to say this but sometimes, parents don't help in the posting department. Again, nobody is going to post that their kid came home drunk, made a bad grade, etc. A friend of mine constantly posts about his son's good baseball games and the whole time I'm thinking, wow, his son is pretty good. Then I saw him play and found out he was hitting about .300. I've never seen the guy post about the games when the son went hitless with three strikeouts.
Sorry for the long rant but the creators of social media, specifically China with the creation of Tiktok have done a major number on our kids, especially teenage boys.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 11:05 pm to Taxing Authority
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Imagine hitting puberty, and not a single adult is honest enough to tell you what a man or woman is. We've removed the most basic of stability for kids. It's criminal.
Man. That really drives it home.
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