re: Im old. I hate kids nowaday. I hate NIL deals. Kids so soft nowadays.

You are not under contract with the university and can quit and or transfer to another school at anytime. You cannot play in that same season but it used to be you had to sit out the following season which kept many players from transferring.

Now NIL is a different animal and that depends only on how your NIL contact is structured and there is no specific regulated contract or even if you actually have to have a contract. Someone like Gordon could just tell a player he will pay him $100k and the player might agree. He would be a dumbass but who knows.


I think the transfer portal needs to revert back to sitting out a year or make it limited to one transfer.

And I have no problem with NIL per se if they can structure it for performance based or duration and have a universal set of rules to guide you.

Right now it is just the Wild West and that’s not good for college athletics or in the long run the athletes themselves.

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he difference is that college football is now semi-professional with the players having more freedom than NFL players. You keep repeating it, but you can’t explain how

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I’m pretty sure I did multiple times. Can a draft pick or someone that wasn’t even drafted who signs a contract do whatever he wants during or after the season? No, an NFL player can’t
do that. What’s so hard for you to understand about an NFL player not being to go to another team if he’s under contract? He doesn’t have to play, but if he’s under contract he isn’t playing with another NFL team unless his current team says so. That’s not the case for college players, who are getting paid and are under NO obligation to stay with a college team, and the college team can’t do anything about it.

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I’m pretty sure I did multiple times. Can a draft pick or someone that wasn’t even drafted who signs a contract do whatever he wants during or after the season? No, an NFL player can’t do that.

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Nor can a college player

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What’s so hard for you to understand about an NFL player not being to go to another team if he’s under contract?

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What’s so hard to understand that a college player can’t either?

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That’s not the case for college players

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That’s PRECISELY the case for college players

That's a fair question, given my somewhat rambling post...

Right now, a guy can play QB for a team, and negotiate a better deal after the regular season is over and tell his current team he's not playing in the bowl game/playoff game, etc b/c his new team told him he can't.
Currently, that is unrestricted movement.
It screws up coaching, recruiting, and post-season.

Well, we don't let pro players do it; they have contracts.
College players should be bound by similar contracts since obviously, they are professional players.

Honesty, NIL is a mess and will ultimately undermine college football and likely lower fan interest.
I understand the players want to be compensated, hell, it's their skills people are paying to see.
Just put contracts and restrictions in place just like every other professional sport.

was my hero in the day

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Im old. I hate kids nowaday. I hate NIL deals. Kids so soft nowadays.

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If the powers that be want college football to be a free for all without any rules, then go for it, but at the same time just admit the amateur athlete is a thing of the past.

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If college football was ever about amateur athletics, it hasn't been in my lifetime.

The problem with college football is that it generates money like a pro sport, but it only does so because people have nostalgic emotional attachments to the school that the players are associated with.

If Auburn and Alabama, for example, became the West Vance Crimson Tide and the East Alabama Tigers and they played off campus somewhere and there was no association with the universities, you couldn't fill up a high school stadium with people to watch them. Same players, same coaches, same everything, except no association with the schools.

So college football has always been a minor league for the pros that generated money like the pros (what other farm league does that?) because it was associated with institutions of higher learning, and as such it always had to pretend to be something else.

I do not subscribe to the viewpoint that college athletes were ever "taken advantage of." They got the best nutrition and nutritional advice, they got professional training and coaching (how much do you think Nick Saban would have charged for in person coaching if he had been running a private camp?), they got tutors and handlers, and most importantly, they got t.v. exposure.

All of these things were invaluable for getting them to their goal, which was the pros. Literally invaluable...how much do you think it would have cost a player to buy himself 3 1/2 hours of national t.v. time to showcase his skills 10 times a season?

So they got compensated plenty already IMO.

That said, it's always been a professional farm league. I think that the NIL part hasn't been nearly as disruptive as the transfer portal part, and if they don't do something about that I think it will indeed end up ruining the game.

We're already at a place in which coaches are afraid to discipline players b/c if they get upset they will poke their bottom lip out, hold their breath, and transfer.

But more than that, imagine that every player in the NFL WAS on a 1 year contract. Imagine how destabilizing it would be.

It's unsustainable IMO.

correct and if you went to everyone being true student athletes again....people would show up like crazy

i do not like the instant transfer thing and think there should be contracts



as far as the pay thing....i feel two different ways

1) NCAA is a volunteer org and i didnt feel like it was a monopoly. Kids could go play in canada or start their own league so i dont like the courts telling the NCAA what to do

but

2) Im not paying for the money they are getting so if someone else wants too fine but im not gonna give money for some 18 year old to make more than I do. If that means LSU sucks and I have to get use to that...so be it. I will never donate to that and I will be cancelling my subscriptions to all of the paid sites because its a waste now a days.

i dont really like the court ruling as I looked at this as a internship but they were getting 2-3k a month in stipend, free room & board, free nutritionist, free strength coach, free position coaching, full scholarship not to mention all the swag and other things and when you add alll that up its worth over 100k a year......well if that aint enough...well frick em.

but i digress and if someone else wants to pay them, fine but I wont be participating.

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You are not under contract with the university and can quit and or transfer to another school at anytime.

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So, like any other student.

BTW, OP is trolling. Hook too shiny.

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It's the logical result of the NCAA's stated principles. They're students first.

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But all the highest paid football players aren’t actually student athletes.