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re: Im an EBR teacher thinking about being a welder. Tell me about being a welder in Louisiana

Posted on 2/12/22 at 3:24 pm to
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
70516 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 3:24 pm to
Go hang out with the welding vo-tech teacher during your planning period.
Posted by VolunGator
Franklin, TN / Key West, FL
Member since Jan 2020
1389 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 3:32 pm to
Paintless dent repair (PDR).
Four weeks training costs about 10-14k.

Storm (hail) chasers make 20k per month.

Average independent contractor makes over 100k. Learn to tint or partner with a good tint guy.
Posted by adavis
North of I-10
Member since Aug 2007
5931 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 3:54 pm to
I have Bachelor’s in History and a Master’s in Education. I spent ten years in the classroom, taught AP and Dual Enrollment, served as department head and content leader, taught summer school, and worked in administration. The most I ever made was $57,000z I left and went into operations for an oil and gas company. I was making six figures within two years. It was the absolute best decision I ever made. If I were you, I’d go to trade school for instrumentation, electrical, or process technology. If I could do it all over again, I would have skipped college and went straight to instrumentation school.
Posted by mytigger
Member since Jan 2008
15274 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 3:58 pm to
Pipe welders who work on projects make good money. But it’s also craft that puts your job on the line with each weld. It also takes years to learn. If you’re looking to work construction take pipe fitting at abc and get a day job as a helper. You can make $22-26/hr. Welders will pull in $35-40 working in the field and around 30 working in a shop.

Figure out what you like and don’t like. QC guys do well, as do safety managers ($40-60/hr). You’ll need to be organized and good with a computer in those jobs. If you’re more production driven look into a supervisors role or a project ‘engineer’.

If you like computers, go take primavera scheduling classes. Top schedulers who know the program and understand the work and work sequences it takes to build a job are worth every penny ($65-75/hr). Those that can do that and operate AWP programs even more so.

If you’re willing to travel, throw tax free per diems of 75-100/day on top of all that.

Throw in a drinking problem and a divorce for good measure.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21178 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 4:00 pm to
I've worked Industrial construction for 32 years. Welders have it pretty good on construction sites and always make top money (respective to the area working).
Physically, it's not to demanding, but your still outside dealing with the elements.
Depends on how good of a welder one is(as with most crafts).
You could work maintenance,welding/fab shop, shutdowns, pipeline, or chase projects.
If your good, show up to work, have good attitude, you'll stay busy.
Now days, be ready to spend time in hours of orientations, safety classes, etc. This project I'm working on, took me 5 days to hire in, get cleared for background check, drug test(hair follicle),safety council, and company orientation.
Also, on large projects usually have to park and ride bus to work site.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15757 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 4:01 pm to
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If I were you, I’d go to trade school for instrumentation, electrical, or process technology.


I would follow this advice before going off to be a welder.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62504 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 4:17 pm to
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Anybody can make two pieces of flat bar on a bench, stick together. A good welder can make a leak proof weld, while laying on his back, under a flange, that’s 12” off the ground.
"everybody wants to be a welder, until it's time to do welder isht"
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
24462 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 4:18 pm to
Get into oil and gas and move to Houston. You'll be well onto a $100K job in no time.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39257 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 4:45 pm to
You'll definitely make more money, depending on certifications, and I had a teacher that worked maintenence during the summer. Maybe you should try that to test compatibility.

If you can't weld pipe, don't bother wasting your time.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3156 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 4:51 pm to
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Why anyone would willingly go into teaching these days is beyond me.


There are good teaching jobs. EBRPSS, unfortunately, doesn't have many. We forget, not every state is Louisiana......
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
25716 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 5:18 pm to
Working with kids:

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ill-behaved shitheads propagated by social media and their unemployed, lazy parents that show no desire to care about their education, administration is difficult, hardly any discipline is allowed and fights between students are a daily occurrence, Covid has only made things worse


Working with welders:

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ill-behaved shitheads propagated by social media and their unemployed, lazy parents that show no desire to care about their education, administration is difficult, hardly any discipline is allowed and fights between welders are a daily occurrence, Covid has only made things worse
Posted by NOLAManBlog
The Big Nasty
Member since Dec 2012
1218 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 5:31 pm to
Do welding as a last resort (felonies etc). Do HVAC or Plumbing if you are a smaller slender guy. Truck driving if you don't mind being away for extended periods. Electrician apprenticeship is 5 years but paid starting at $18/hr last I heard.
Posted by Rekamyah
Ovadalevee
Member since Jun 2008
1866 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 5:33 pm to
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Tell me about being a welder in Louisiana


Better find a leather, turtle neck bra. Them BBs be burning them tittays.
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7662 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 5:44 pm to
I’m guessing you have a degree, so why don’t you enter a PTEC program at one of the local community colleges, finish it and you will be set !
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12985 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 5:53 pm to
Don't be a welder. Go to votech and take us a class in either instrumentation or be an electrician. Or better still take a class for process operations. Plant operators make good money and most have great benefits.
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 10:55 pm
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
6296 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 5:59 pm to
You have to be able to pass two things to get a good job as a welder --- the welding test and the piss test. If you can't pass one or the other you won't make much. If you can pass both there are plenty of opportunities, especially after you have a few years experience.
Posted by Mariner
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2009
2520 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 7:04 pm to
The guys I worked with who were welders were for the most part very good at their job.

You will be sweating your nuts off. Do you want to sweat 12 hrs a day? Thats what I saw.

I am not sure how much they made, but whatever it was they were severely underpaid. Multimillion dollar operations that come to a screeching halt when something breaks, and the welder has to go in and save the day.

I cannot begin to tell you how management demanded the welder on our rig. They were the subject on conference calls to keep the operation going.
Posted by Quesadilla Superman
SELA
Member since Aug 2020
825 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 7:22 pm to
Man, there are a lot of other things you could get started in the industrial field. There’s some $ to be made welding working double time outages/ turnarounds but that shite gets old after a while. Over the years I’ve seen welders who bust their balls in a shop and guys in the field who may only make 1 weld in an entire week.

You obviously have a degree. I would look to get into procurement/ supply chain and learn the industry. There are some engineering firms that are paying anywhere from $35- $65 an hour for Material Controls/ Material Coordinator. Then possibly move up or get into Planning and Scheduling. You could actually enroll in a trade school at night and take your courses to get NCCER certified now. We are in bad need of Planners and schedulers right now and almost every plant in our area are looking to hire.

Go work as a boilermaker this summer and begin trade school immediately. I can tell you now some of these companies aren’t even looking at how much experience a person has in the field. Many just want someone who’s educated and willing to learn.

A good bit of the time you’ll see jobs posted that say planner/ scheduler which in my experience the last several years they’ve really separated those roles, especially project or turnarounds. I worked on my tools for maybe 5 months when I was 19 then was asked if I’d be interested in expediting and working in the supply chain side of it. I enjoyed procurement and did it a couple years until I got into Planning & Scheduling.

Planning and scheduling at the same time can be stressful unless you’re just doing everyday maintenance. I went into projects and turnarounds where the money is better. More $ to be made as a scheduler but companies are struggling to find good ones. They just want someone they can mold. 2 years ago I took a guy that was similar to your situation and we trained him up and he’s one of the better schedulers I’ve seen. A degree doesn’t matter but will get your foot in the door easier and they really don’t care what your degree is in. The best scheduler I’ve ever seen/ worked with is a guy who’s only education was his GED. He’s in his early 40s now and is the Global Project manager for a huge company. Dude worked his arse off to get where he is. It can be done and never too late. I’ve been in project management a few years now and wouldn’t change much except getting my degree. I would’ve gotten where I am now sooner.

Seriously look into planning. It’s an easy job 90% of the time as long as you don’t have a tendency to procrastinate and you can make a great living. I had no desire to become a PM until an opportunity presented itself and I took it. The only reason I make little more now then from when I was last a scheduler is my bonuses are a little bigger.

Sorry for the novel I wrote above but I’ve seen young and older professionals struggling with all the Covid fallout and think things can’t/ won’t get better but it will. Covid did a number on our industry in early 2020 but all these companies cannot make enough product quick enough. Especially on the chem manufacturing. Poly and vinyl units world wide are running 100% to meet demand and are struggling to do it. We need the workforce. The opportunities are there. Expansions that were deferred in 2020 are now beginning to start construction or into detail & design.
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
8898 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 7:51 pm to
I would be seriously concerned about my eyesight.

That bright light will permanently damage your vision. That’s why e ask for welders eye tests. If you can’t see the weld, you’re no good. And you carry that vision loss with you for the rest of your life.

If you want to make welding a career, you need to move up into management so you aren’t taxing your eyeballs so much.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13476 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 8:06 pm to
Yes eyesight becomes an issue. But like others have mentioned, he’s got a degree, he can slide into office job. We’re paying Primavera guys very well if you’re okay with sitting in front of computer 10-12 hrs a day. Plenty of opportunities for people with common sense and ability to understand how things go together. This shite isn’t rocket science, otherwise we’d all be screwed.
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