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re: If you want to know why no one can afford 30A anymore
Posted on 7/1/19 at 10:24 am to bfniii
Posted on 7/1/19 at 10:24 am to bfniii
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because I've been there? I'm not sure how to answer that question
What I’m getting at is why do you know who goes there, what they buy, how much they pay, where they’re from, etc
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 10:45 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Grayton national park allows camping.
Pitch a tent.
Only $350/night
Pitch a tent.
Only $350/night
Posted on 7/1/19 at 10:47 am to superwolf
they ruined 30a when they decided to bulldoze the ampitheater for more condos.
Posted on 7/1/19 at 10:58 am to CAD703X
quote:Which amphitheater are you referring to? Because I can't think of one being bulldozed that would have been on any top reason list for "ruining 30a"
they ruined 30a when they decided to bulldoze the ampitheater for more condos.
Rosemary?
Posted on 7/1/19 at 11:08 am to superwolf
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Is bc these good ole southern rich lawyers have made it unaffordable. Michael Moore is a facking fraud. And so is that fracking tool Burton LeBlanc. I would piss on those 2 Gulf Coast people that talk w a southern accents. They are sick.
You all really need to travel a bit if you think the panhandle of Florida is where the rich and famous spend their loot during the summer time. The Jersey shore has real estate that is way more expensive than there. It’s called the redneck riviera for a reason. There’s a little beach town I go to often in Rhode Island called Watch Hill. It’s not as pricey or as glamorous as Newport, RI but Taylor Swift and Conan OBrien have houses there.
But seriously everyone should expand their view of the world a bit.
Posted on 7/1/19 at 11:08 am to SippyCup
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If you really want to observe the jet-set, hangout at night at the Pearl and La Crema
Lets not get carried away, its still NW Florida. Malibu, Montecito, Marthas Vineyard, Hamptons, etc make the 30A "Jet Set" crowd look like poors.
Yep. If you’re looking for real jet setters in Florida, come on down to Palm Beach
Posted on 7/1/19 at 11:14 am to Pettifogger
quote:or don't act like you know who all is over leveraged.
don't be so defensive
quote:you and sippy are confusing quantity with quality. Yes those areas have MORE multimillionaires but they are near mega metro areas. 30a isn't. But the top end at 30a is crazy rich. As I said, the Hiltons had a beach home near alys.
Give me your estimated percentage of people who hang out in Rosemary who own XX million dollar homes on 30A
Posted on 7/1/19 at 11:22 am to bfniii
quote:Not the Hiltons you're thinking of
the Hiltons had a beach home near alys.
Posted on 7/1/19 at 11:25 am to bfniii
It doesn't take some unique insight or much guesswork to conclude that a ton of vacationers on 30A are over leveraged. Most people we know probably fall into that category. A lot of US fall into that category. The point is you're making it out to be something it isn't.
The huge majority of visitors to 30A, even to Rosemary, are upper middle class people who work for a living. The huge majority of owners along 30A fall into the same category. That is a lot different from the type of generational wealth you seem to be referencing.
The top end owners on 30A likely have considerable wealth, but that's a small subset of owners, who are greatly outnumbered by visitors.
I love 30A. It's nice, especially if you're familiar with it and can manage to avoid the hordes. But it remains primarily a playground for people from the Atlanta, Birmingham, Dallas, etc. suburbs, not the country's elite.
The huge majority of visitors to 30A, even to Rosemary, are upper middle class people who work for a living. The huge majority of owners along 30A fall into the same category. That is a lot different from the type of generational wealth you seem to be referencing.
The top end owners on 30A likely have considerable wealth, but that's a small subset of owners, who are greatly outnumbered by visitors.
I love 30A. It's nice, especially if you're familiar with it and can manage to avoid the hordes. But it remains primarily a playground for people from the Atlanta, Birmingham, Dallas, etc. suburbs, not the country's elite.
Posted on 7/1/19 at 11:29 am to eyepooted
You don’t have to be poor to realize it’s a waste of money with nothing more to provide than anywhere else
Posted on 7/1/19 at 11:36 am to PrinceVegeta
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How are poor people being “pushed out?”
To be pushed out implies you own something there. If someone is poor and had property there then they definitely are not poor.
Or if they had it from a long time ago when it was cheap then they sold it to someone for a nice profit and are now no longer poor.
I make 82k a year and can afford to vacation there it’s not that bad
Posted on 7/1/19 at 11:40 am to bfniii
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As I said, the Hiltons had a beach home near alys.
Jerry Jones also has a home next to Tops'l. Whats your point? I've never seen him or the Hiltons here.
I bet you would be surprised to know that many of those homes on 30A are owned by groups who invest in vacation properties, even those in the high millions.
Either way, this topic has gone off the rails. If we are looking for who made 30A "unaffordable" I can think of just one company who started it off and that's the St Joe Company.
The St Joe Company and Peter Bos (Legendary Inc) have changed the landscape of Okaloosa and Walton county to what it is today. Plenty of millionaires have been made from them making what was once thought to be worthless land to a gold mine.
Posted on 7/1/19 at 11:40 am to SippyCup
quote:again, this is confusing quantity with quality
The median home value in Walton county is around 350k, lets not pretend Malibu = Walton County.
quote:I would imagine the demographics are similar. There are people across the spectrum and some probably are over leveraged like petti was saying but the top end at rosemary/alys is pretty insane
My point is, the wealth you see in Seaside, Alys, etc is nothing compared to other "jet setting" beach communities
Posted on 7/1/19 at 11:43 am to superwolf
A. the OP is a retard.
B. The super "rich" are not at 30A.
B. The super "rich" are not at 30A.
Posted on 7/1/19 at 11:55 am to SippyCup
Jerrah comes through quite a bit
I've met a couple of his pilots
He's not technically on 30a, though
There are some huge money people down here, but it's more celebrity type new money than Dupont types, because until 40 years ago this was a sleepy 3 neighborhood strip of Beach
I've met a couple of his pilots
He's not technically on 30a, though
There are some huge money people down here, but it's more celebrity type new money than Dupont types, because until 40 years ago this was a sleepy 3 neighborhood strip of Beach
This post was edited on 7/1/19 at 11:55 am
Posted on 7/1/19 at 12:13 pm to flash
quote:if I can vacation there, the majority of Americans can too
30A is so overpriced
quote:really? Where? I want to hear about these places
you can go to much better places for the same amount or less
Posted on 7/1/19 at 12:19 pm to Miketheseventh
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it’s a waste of money with nothing more to provide than anywhere else
Except it's a nicer area that the other gulf coast beach areas by a wide margin. No Walmarts, fast food chains, etc. No place tucked in where the poors can stay and mess up everyone's good time.
Restaurants are much better as well.
Posted on 7/1/19 at 12:22 pm to superwolf
The 30A thing is overrated. I live going to the beach, but it gets obnoxious sometimes. It’s all about money. The whole 30A “life style” is a bunch of soccer moms blowing their husbands’ money on stupid, overpriced shite.
Posted on 7/1/19 at 12:22 pm to Pockets
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It's a state highway down on the Florida coast. It's right on the beach. Rich folks are buying everything up. Poor people are getting pushed out. Way to much traffic on that road.
20 years ago rich people from the Southeast started buying it all up.
This is old news.
Posted on 7/1/19 at 12:24 pm to Mahootney
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Ballers hit up Hawaii, the Caribbean, pacific islands, and Mediterranean coasts.
What about Cabo? That’s where myself and my betrothed are planning on going for the honeymoon. Need to get an OT gauge on Trashiness before heading out.
This post was edited on 7/1/19 at 12:25 pm
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