re: If you want to know why no one can afford 30A anymore

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Restaurants are much better as well.

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I didn't find any restaurants on 30A to be any better than what you can find in Destin or Orange Beach.

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why do you know who goes there

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just from being there and observing. La crema is pretty cool and when we're in there we see the high roller cars the pearl valets are parking.

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how much they pay

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the real estate office at rosemary posts open properties on their wall. As for the alys property I mentioned, we just picked up the sale poster from the box on the lot. We laughed. We cried. :)

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where they’re from

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never said I know that part although you can look at the license plates

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if I can vacation there, the majority of Americans can too

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Doesn't mean it is not overpriced.

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Trashy AF

So that probably means it’s awesome

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After living in Bossier majority of my life, I’ve adapted to thrive amongst the trash.

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as I said, the Hiltons built a house next to alys. It's pretty insane. You can see it on Google maps

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You'e talking about the modern concrete home in paradise? That's not "The Hiltons", that is Charles Hilton. He was a developer in Panama City and I think he owned a large concrete company. I think he died not too long ago.

That house has been there for close to 15 years.


edit* Yes, died last year.

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30a has the nicest beaches on the East Coast

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In my opinion Navarre to Mexico Beach has the best combination of sand and water outside of Hawaii with Miami/the keys being 3rd. At least if we are talking U.S.

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It doesn't take some unique insight or much guesswork to conclude that a ton of vacationers on 30A are over leveraged

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it's a stupid statement that you totally can't substantiate.

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A lot of US fall into that category

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a lot of people can't afford a multi million dollar vacation home.

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point is you're making it out to be something it isn't.

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you saw the numbers I posted. You can look them up yourself. Those people are very wealthy

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huge majority of visitors to 30A, even to Rosemary, are upper middle class people who work for a living.

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the renters aren't who we're talking about and even so, there's a huge difference between the renters who vacation at 30a and the ones at gulf shores. A chasm.

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The huge majority of owners along 30A fall into the same category

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and you know this from your extensive research into the real estate market there? Not. I'm not talking about the houses in between the communities. I'm talking about Seaside, Rosemary and Alys beach

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avoid the hordes

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we have never encountered this. Not even on a holiday weekend. Can you guess why? I'm starting to suspect you've never been there

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The top end owners on 30A likely have considerable wealth,

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which is what I was saying all along that you initially scoffed at but now you're backpedaling

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not the country's elite.

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I never said anything like this. But the people who own the top properties at the top communities are definitely elite

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Beach is not crowded, but you go there enough to know the traffic, restaurants and grocery are overwhelmed.

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This isn't difficult, people. Have your concierge fill the pantry before you get there along with making any needed restaurant reservations. Even my butler's butler's butler knows how to navigate these waters.

So you think everyone was going to go to 30A and people would just stop going to Destin?