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re: I sense the divide is growing

Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:46 am to
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86497 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:46 am to
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Sacrificing a few unhealthy elderly is acceptable damage to save the economic health of the nation


That's for the most part a false dilemma .Or at least an incorrect summation of our situation. How about we adapt as facts become available as Americans do in a time of crisis?

That said, The Ruling Class has already spoken. The path ahead is clear. Quarantine, closures, payments etc is what we will do.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:46 am to
I think it is probably an overreaction, but I recognize I'm not really qualified to make that determination. Thus, I'm left following the advice of experts in the field of infectious disease and virology.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:47 am to
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Being on the medical side of things, and I know the aggressiveness of the virus, I fall on the proper precautions side.
One way to slow it down.
There’s isn’t an overreaction when 4,000 people have died from something.
It’s easy to know that if these measures weren’t taken the numbers would be really high.
So anyone saying it’s an overreaction, well it really doesn’t matter what they say. Let them bitch and complain while we beat this pandemic.



Translated: I'm still getting a paycheck so we're good.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58630 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:47 am to
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On the other side you have those who see the measures being taken as an overreaction that is destroying the economy and costing too many people their jobs and business. Sacrificing a few unhealthy elderly is acceptable damage to save the economic health of the nation.

Now that we’re into this a bit, where do you come down?
at one point in time we gladly sacrificed hundreds of thousands of healthy men to prevent the spread of big government controlling everything........and here we are today.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11352 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:48 am to
If any get the flu they’d be toast anyway.

BuT wE HaVe A vAcCiNE. Yes one that was 45% effective this season
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131797 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:48 am to
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I say shut everything down that's not essential right now for a month.


Nope.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:48 am to
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We know where you cum down.

Don't they have IQ tests before people are admitted into the army?
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
14341 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:48 am to
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I think we should lay up for about a month so that we can prevent avoidable deaths by “flattening the curve”, but we have to ask whether any longer is worth mortgaging our economic future.


Exactly. I'd give it three weeks but no longer. After that, exercise whatever reasonable precautions are possible (no big crowds, etc) but get back to work and life. Yes, there will be deaths, but the alternative is much worse.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46736 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:48 am to
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There’s isn’t an overreaction when 4,000 people have died from something.


There is when the global population is over 7 billion and the overreaction is destroying the economy.



Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106112 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:48 am to
Hard short term lockdown to stall community spread to the extent possible; then open back up nationwide combined with universal testing. Local quarantines as needed to control hotspots. It's simply unfeasible to shut down the country for more than a few weeks.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:48 am to
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those who agree with the measures that are being taken, see Covid-19 as a serious health issue for the nation, and want to save as many lives as possible.



Takers / thieves/ losers / overgrown children who lack the introspection necessary to examine their own real motives.



Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104479 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:49 am to
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There has to be a compromise between acceptable losses in the economy and acceptable losses of life.


Agreed.

And the problem is that we'll only know if we DIDN'T do enough this time around, not if we did too much.

So now, if this works and curtails the impact, a shut down and tanking the economy will be the SOP for the next time something like this comes around.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36788 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:49 am to
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Nope.


Why not? They are doing it slowly anyway. Which is just leading to more people getting it. Which is going to keep people out of work even longer in the long run.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
27991 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:50 am to
It is better to be prepared and ready than to ignore the issue which could be out of hand. This is an unknown virus and you absolutely have to take it seriously. I'm happy the Trump administration is tackling this issue when it was early unlike our previous president.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:50 am to
So long as that constant exponential rate upward stays constant for total cases and deaths I am for protective measures continuing.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41888 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:50 am to
idk how anyone can be sure either way of the true nature of corona, I am not even sure if we know there are only two strains and which strain is most virulent

Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56852 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:50 am to
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Now that we’re into this a bit, where do you come down?


I’m in the middle
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:50 am to
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So now, if this works and curtails the impact, a shut down and tanking the economy will be the SOP for the next time something like this comes around.


Right and that's an even bigger concern. This reaction so far is the floor for the next time. No one will take a chance and do less. Instead they'll overreact and do more. Bad precedent being set right now. Thanks politicians.
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
24542 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:51 am to
Would you like to trade positions? I’ve worked 204 hours in the last two weeks. 24 of my coworkers have been exposed. I can’t see my family, I have to wear full garb for a majority of my day and my boss is Latoya. Enjoy your days off, and if you don’t have enough money to make it, try saving better next time.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:52 am to
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Elderly, cancer patients, people with asthma, young people with immune disorders. All expendable for muh small businesses.
How many families are you OK with driving to financial ruin to save 1 life? 10? 100? 1000?

It's a shitty question to ask, but one that we have to answer for the sake of our future.
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