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re: I sense the divide is growing
Posted on 3/18/20 at 1:13 pm to High C
Posted on 3/18/20 at 1:13 pm to High C
I find this a giant overreaction. Anything short of sudden death or zombies running down the street isn’t going to collapse society.
Say this thing is as communicable as they claim. Will the death rate really be worse than the actual seasonal flu? Doubtful. Will the old and infirm still be at risk for seasonal flu and resulting pneumonia? Absolutely.
This is nothing but a media frenzy and overreaction. This reaction is equivalent of Typhus or Ebola, when the death rate is like 3%.
The entire list of deaths in the US has 90+% by those over 70. Whatever, man. We’ll just tank ourselves into oblivion apparently.
Say this thing is as communicable as they claim. Will the death rate really be worse than the actual seasonal flu? Doubtful. Will the old and infirm still be at risk for seasonal flu and resulting pneumonia? Absolutely.
This is nothing but a media frenzy and overreaction. This reaction is equivalent of Typhus or Ebola, when the death rate is like 3%.
The entire list of deaths in the US has 90+% by those over 70. Whatever, man. We’ll just tank ourselves into oblivion apparently.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 1:14 pm to Salmon
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but we really didn't fire the bullet
these are half measures
it's too late. our economy is cooked
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yeah...which is why I think we will adapt
I don't know why people think we can't adjust or change our strategy with new information
what information can we use to stop the spread of a virus that doesn't present symptoms in 50-75% of people and takes 5-14 days (while being contagious) to manifest in ones who do show symptoms?
we would literally have to test EVERYONE, including blood for antibodies to see who already had it
Posted on 3/18/20 at 1:15 pm to Salmon
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do you think no one else knows this?
our politicians are basing their decisionmaking off a study that ensures riots. that study projects MONTHS necessary to "protect" society
Posted on 3/18/20 at 1:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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it's too late. our economy is cooked
no it isn't
or at least not the point where it would be after 2-3 months
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what information can we use to stop the spread of a virus that doesn't present symptoms in 50-75% of people and takes 5-14 days (while being contagious) to manifest in ones who do show symptoms?
we would literally have to test EVERYONE, including blood for antibodies to see who already had it
better testing? better treatment? vaccine? better knowledge on how is spreads?
I don't know. I'm not an expert on this
Posted on 3/18/20 at 1:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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our politicians are basing their decisionmaking off a study that ensures riots. that study projects MONTHS necessary to "protect" society
it won't happen
calm down
Posted on 3/18/20 at 1:19 pm to Salmon
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better testing?
it's a matter of quantity. you would literally need tens of millions of tests at any time
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better treatment?
possible, but supply/chain issues will present in something of this scale
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vaccine
will takes 12+ months, if we can develop one. i don't think SARS or MERS have one yet
Posted on 3/18/20 at 1:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:BINGO
what information can we use to stop the spread of a virus that doesn't present symptoms in 50-75% of people and takes 5-14 days (while being contagious) to manifest in ones who do show symptoms?
we would literally have to test EVERYONE, including blood for antibodies to see who already had it
Herd immunity (and doing our absolute best to lock down nursing homes, oncology clinics, etc) is the only answer.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 1:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
“BUT WE DONT HAVE ENOUGH TESTS TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE IT!”
I’m kinda thinking if someone has a disease that has shut down the entire world, you shouldn’t need to do some complex test to confirm it. It’s not a fricking mystery when someone gets Ebola. Or has some illness where they are shitting themselves to death.
Our businesses have been shut down for at least a month because of a weaker version of the flu. What known sicknesses ARENT made more severe by pre existing conditions?
I’m kinda thinking if someone has a disease that has shut down the entire world, you shouldn’t need to do some complex test to confirm it. It’s not a fricking mystery when someone gets Ebola. Or has some illness where they are shitting themselves to death.
Our businesses have been shut down for at least a month because of a weaker version of the flu. What known sicknesses ARENT made more severe by pre existing conditions?
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 3/18/20 at 1:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
SK is relaxing after 8 weeks. They went a little harder than we did, but they must have had reasons to lessen their restrictions.
I think we lessen the restrictions as soon as we get testing established and the curve of positive results flattens.
Isn't that what the whole #flattenthecurve thing is about?
I think we lessen the restrictions as soon as we get testing established and the curve of positive results flattens.
Isn't that what the whole #flattenthecurve thing is about?
Posted on 3/18/20 at 1:24 pm to Salmon
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it won't happen
calm down
then we're back to square 1
there was ONE holdout country, who reversed course based off this study
Posted on 3/18/20 at 1:25 pm to Salmon
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Isn't that what the whole #flattenthecurve thing is about
Yeah, that’s my understanding of it.
We’re basically softening the blow.
There’s been some serious reverse doom-casting taking place in the past couple days.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 1:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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then we're back to square 1
I know
and we will adjust strategy
we were going to be back at square 1 this fall anyways
Posted on 3/18/20 at 1:25 pm to Salmon
It won't be 8 weeks for us. Its just not going to happen.
3 more weeks at most, IMO. I've been saying it for awhile but people will be sick of this shite, and as soon as the reality of a large segment of the population missing their first and 2nd paychecks or weeks of tips kicks in, this will all be over. The tide will turn, things will pick up, and people will just learn to deal with it.
3 more weeks at most, IMO. I've been saying it for awhile but people will be sick of this shite, and as soon as the reality of a large segment of the population missing their first and 2nd paychecks or weeks of tips kicks in, this will all be over. The tide will turn, things will pick up, and people will just learn to deal with it.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 1:26 pm to Fun Bunch
We are in 100% agreement
the public pressure will be too much
the public pressure will be too much
Posted on 3/18/20 at 1:27 pm to Fun Bunch
trump sending out two trump checks to lesson the economic blow
yang gave him data to suggest this will help
yang gave him data to suggest this will help
Posted on 3/18/20 at 1:27 pm to Mr Perfect
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trump sending out two trump checks to lesson the economic blow
And where does the money for these magical checks come from?
Posted on 3/18/20 at 1:28 pm to Salmon
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SK is relaxing after 8 weeks. They went a little harder than we did, but they must have had reasons to lessen their restrictions.
when the US adopts asian collectivism and shrinks our country to the size of Missouri (while being, effectively, an island), we can compare the US to SK
1. we aren't going to act like them. hell we're under mini-martial law and we're still not acting like them
2. we are way too big to contain like that
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Isn't that what the whole #flattenthecurve thing is about?
it's flattening the curve of cases, so instead of a huge spike where we deal with, basically 100% of our cases, we get 20%/month for 5 months
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 3/18/20 at 1:29 pm to Fun Bunch
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It won't be 8 weeks for us. Its just not going to happen.
3 more weeks at most, IMO. I've been saying it for awhile but people will be sick of this shite, and as soon as the reality of a large segment of the population missing their first and 2nd paychecks or weeks of tips kicks in, this will all be over. The tide will turn, things will pick up, and people will just learn to deal with it.
I hope you're right, but I wouldn't be shocked to see politicians and political appointees extend well beyond that to save their own hides.
Needless to say, another 3 weeks of this is still going to completely devastate the US financially.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 1:29 pm to LSUBoo
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JV
For the life of me, I can’t figure out what this stands for
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