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re: I had a few teachers like this and now that I’m older, im thankful

Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:08 am to
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17111 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:08 am to
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You are 100% correct. . . It's math. It's either right or wrong. No partial credit. Period.

Depending on how complex the problems are, I disagree. Exams should be about showing your mastery of a material not just spitting out a correct answer.

If it's "here's a triangle, find sin of angle A." Then the answer is what matters.

For something more in depth like word problems/real world application, each step of a problem should have a points value. Making the correct assumptions and using the correct formulas is worth some credit.

Making an error in step 1 but doing steps 2-5 correctly should be worth more than a correct step 1 and incorrect steps 2-5.

Just going through and marking the answer right or wrong is lazy grading.

This works better in college when there are office hours, but I'm also a fan of show me where you made a mistake, correct it, and you get points back. I guess that doesn't work as well in high school where there's simply not enough time to retest material.
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
3803 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:15 am to
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Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17493 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:16 am to
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This generation of kids have been force fed that people who make you work or hold you accountable=mean (not that others haven't, just a lot more prevalent with this one).


I sadly agree with this.

No one wants to be uncomfortable and its creating a whole generation of weak people.
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
8222 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:18 am to
I am a HS school teacher and the problem with today's education is school boards are way more concerned with perception than education. This is how you get graduation rates in the 90%'s even though some of the students are functionally illiterate.

The "Hard" teacher will be driven out (usually into retirement), by bootlicking principals who want all of the students to "enjoy school". School boards and principals are terrified of parents and the media, so they will force the teachers to dumb everything down and keep expectations as low as possible. I know of several schools where the lowest grade a kid can get is 50% even if they did nothing,
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 12:18 pm
Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
1571 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:21 am to
Your niece will be smarter when the class is done.
Posted by Keith13
Member since Apr 2024
387 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:23 am to
Hardest teacher I ever had was Dr. Acosta for zoology at Southeastern. 40 years later I still know the materials he put out in his lectures forwards and backwards. Hardest B I ever made
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
2155 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:25 am to
I was taught about wise math Indian friend, SAHCAHTOA.
Another, Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally.
Order to perform functions, Parentheses, Exponential, Multiply, Divide, Additon, Subtraction.
49 years later I still remember and use on occasion.
Posted by lourob
Lower LA
Member since Jun 2014
115 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:40 am to
100%....my math teacher was a b*tch. Told me, "don't even bother taking calculus, you'll just be wasting my time. And if you don't straighten up, you won't amount to anything." Now, over 20 years later.....I've taken care of her and several of her family members in the ER. She smiles and thanks me each time; and I do the same.

Also, she is the reason that myself along with many former students breezed through their college math curriculum.
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
7782 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:41 am to


Forget Trig or any other High Power Studies, boot camp half of the day by a Combat Veteran the other half Sober People ( from any addiction) teaching Right from Wrong.

How to be a Model Person.




Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
72765 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:56 am to
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I have used trig either actual formulas or concepts 1,000s of times in my life the number of times I have used differential equations since turning in my final exam exactly zero.
This.

Precisely.

DEQ Lim——>0
Posted by SlackMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
2836 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:03 am to
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formed a club called the FLO (Flack Liberation Organization).

You must have gone through a year or two before me, because I remember that club.

I had the same experience with Ms. Flack. She may have given me a little too hard of a time about non-academic issues, but the upside was that I placed directly into honors calculus at LSU (skipping college algebra , geometry, and trig). Hard to complain about that.

She can rest knowing that she made a real impact on many lives.
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 11:05 am
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42454 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:05 am to
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I was helping my niece last night with her high school Trig and she was telling me that her math teacher is so strict and mean and passionate in class and gives very little partial credit on tests.

I asked her how the grades are and she said the test averages are always high C or low B.



I have seen teachers like this who were great and others who were not. It always comes down to the teacher's engagement with the class and if they actually teach the subject.

But for the most part, the ones who are passionate are good teachers and do benefit you in the long run.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7258 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:21 am to
Two favorite professors at SC were both hardasses.

One gave us numbers instead of names. Never asked us our numbers during class, never asked our names on assignments. Ensured that he didn't let his thinking about us as students in class affect his grading on our assignments. Loved that guy, and his class was hard as hell.

Another was a class in medieval Russian history taught by a former captain in the Red Army. She (yes, she) gave out precious few points for any assignment, but there were a total of 100 points available for the semester. That's how you earned your grade. Wrote an extra credit research paper about the Tsar impostors throughout history for 10 points. Never been more thankful for a B in my life.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33359 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:25 am to
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You are 100% correct. . . It's math. It's either right or wrong. No partial credit. Period.

Common Core math laughs at you
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59387 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:30 am to
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Best teacher I ever had was the one who was the strictest disciplinarian. She demanded respect and your best effort and she got it.


Those days are gone in public education. You aren’t allowed to “demand” anything.

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He would walk up and down the aisles at the beginning of every class and check to make sure everyone did their homework. If you didn't you had to do a lollipop, which consisted of starting with 2100 and subtracting 7 and putting the result on a piece of paper. You kept subtracting 7 until you got to 0.


Another thing that has been intentionally made extinct. As a matter of fact, just try giving frequent homework today, much less punishing students for not doing it.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78231 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:31 am to
You’re teaching processes if you ask your students to show their work it should mean something.

I had a teacher who did impartial credit and we couldn’t use even a basic calculator. which was pretty rough.
Posted by Riggle
Member since Feb 2013
4593 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:32 am to
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It's math. It's either right or wrong. No partial credit. Period.


This isn't true at all. Still, holding students to high standards is good for them

ETA I give partial credit if the student's problem solving process is correct but they make mistakes on mechanics. It just depends on the problem
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 11:34 am
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
15967 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 11:58 am to
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I had a few teachers like this and now that I’m older, im thankful


Well, this topic didn't turn out how I hoped it would.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16846 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 12:01 pm to
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Ms Flack at Central High back in the 80’s.


I went to Central 92-96 and I think she was still teaching math and CS. If it is the same person, she was a larger lady.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
32094 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 12:19 pm to
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