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re: I don't see how the restaurant industry can survive in its current format.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:56 pm to theliontamer
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:56 pm to theliontamer
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People are eating healthier
I can hardly walk 100 feet in any big box store without seeing someone on a mobility scooter/specialized golf cart looking thing.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:58 pm to Cotten
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2.) No clue what real estate strategy it is to ask multiples of what a building is even close to worth per month just so it can sit vacant for months and years on end, but it seems every commercial real estate firm out there is doing it right now.
the only mom and pop pizza place near me, been there 20 years and was always busy, had to close due to rising rent. The landlord wouldn't work with them. That spot has now been sitting vacant for at least 3 years. Dumbass landlord has now fricked himself out of about $150k minimum.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:00 pm to theliontamer
They keep raising prices and you keep going.
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2024 restaurant/food-service sales: about $1.01 trillion
2025: about $1.07 trillion.
The National Restaurant Association currently projects 2026 sales of about $1.55 trillion
This post was edited on 9/22/26 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:07 pm to dgnx6
Even in the worst of the Great Depression, people were still going to the Country Club.
There will always be those who keep going out to eat.
There will always be those who keep going out to eat.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:15 pm to Buster Swift
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I eat out for almost every meal which is a huge waste of money
That depends on what you are cooking. Grocery prices are also out of control.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:21 pm to Doctor B
I see that every now and then, but not a lot.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:22 pm to SidetrackSilvera
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The future is in slop bowls.
Nah, Soylent Green
Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:29 pm to theliontamer
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People are eating healthier, which also limits the amount of people who want to go out.
I think your premise is 100% spot on, we have more disposable income than we know what to do with, but we eat out much less than ever. Why, even when you have the money, there is cost/benefit analysis that you do in your head every time you consider dining out. It just seems like a waste, I can buy an incredible steak and prepare it as well as Ruth's Chris for a less than half the cost. I can buy fresh shrimp, crabs and oysters the same way.
Maybe we are jaded, but there are few restaurants in the area that have a "wow, that was an incredible meal" factor.
Then the health aspect, restaurant seem over-salted, too much fat, not enough flavor, I watch carbs, try to find options, good luck.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:32 pm to theliontamer
Middle tier restaurants are now just as expensive as high end.
And none of them can find good help.
Always been a tough business to succeed in, but it's tougher now.
And none of them can find good help.
Always been a tough business to succeed in, but it's tougher now.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:07 pm to Defenseiskey
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People can only spend so much on reheated Sisco food.
Can’t wait till someone tries to say that you just don’t understand Sysco
Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:11 pm to theliontamer
Hence the amount of food trucks everywhere. I sometimes pass through small towns where almost the entire downtown/main drag is vacant, but there will be a couple of food trucks at the end in some empty field or lot.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:58 pm to Ryan3232
A good friend of mine opened a Seafood Restaurant minutes from my house in Texas. About 4-5 months after opening, Covid hit. I told her to keep it open, they’d deliver to folks at their homes. I never stopped going in during Covid.
This is her restaurant, named after her Dad.
Captain Brads
This is her restaurant, named after her Dad.
Captain Brads
Posted on 9/22/26 at 9:56 pm to Jake88
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They are?
Yeah. Not in my neck of the woods. I was trying to figure out what all the rage was over these drive-thru coffee shops (Seven Brew) that blast awful music and give away squish toys. I knew it couldn’t be just that. Shonug, it’s basically a sugar bomb joint. I assume one can actually get a regular cup of coffee. But apparently people go there for the coffee-flavored sugar.
I am not seeing lots of evidence that the GLPs have hit Upstate SC (outside of yuppie Greenville areas).
But the OP’a point stands: it’s a boodbath out there for a lot of restaurants.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 9:59 pm to McLemore
quote:Good lord, that's new to me. I'll have something to talk about with Dr. Rick next session.
. I was trying to figure out what all the rage was over these drive-thru coffee shops (Seven Brew) that blast awful music and give away squish toys
Posted on 9/22/26 at 10:01 pm to dgnx6
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2024 restaurant/food-service sales: about $1.01 trillion
2025: about $1.07 trillion.
The National Restaurant Association currently projects 2026 sales of about $1.55 trillion
A 5% increase in sales from 24 to 25 is a decrease in real sales when factoring in the increase in costs but seems to have rebounded in the 26 projections
Posted on 9/22/26 at 10:02 pm to theliontamer
The industry has been cooked since COVID showed up
Posted on 9/23/26 at 7:04 am to theliontamer
Is it just me or does it seem like restaurants are closing earlier post covid? I’ve noticed so many restaurants in the New Orleans area that close at 8:00.
Posted on 9/23/26 at 7:18 am to DMagic
Purely anecdotal but prior to COVID our family ate at a restaurant about 90% of the time, breakfast being almost the only meal we cooked at home. To the point that I lost 10 pounds once because the driver side window motor went out on my truck. During COVID and since we found that cooking simple meals at home is not only less expensive but far more convenient. It is entirely possible to feed a family of four a weeks worth of meals for the cost of 2 dinners at anything other than fast food and even fast food would be about 6 dinners. This isn't including lunches and breakfast. Even with buying groceries - we still had to go to a grocery store a couple of times a week anyway - cooking at home is far more convenient than going out to eat, for us. 20 minutes or so of prep, cooking and clean up compared to 15-20 minute drive alone to eat. I'm not talking about gourmet meals but just simple meat, a side or 2 and a drink. Leftovers for lunch or even a dinner later in the week. It is way cheaper but the main thing is it is way more convenient.
Posted on 9/23/26 at 7:23 am to Tall Tiger
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Middle tier restaurants are now just as expensive as high end.
And none of them can find good help.
Always been a tough business to succeed in, but it's tougher now.
A lot of mom and pop and ethnic restaurants are cheaper and more convenient than fast food in our area. Mexican, Chinese, Indian and Greek/Mediterranean places around us cost us about $40 without any alcohol where McDonalds costs $35, takes longer dining in or carry out AND whatever you get from about 95% of fast food places is what you get no matter what you ordered. We have a couple of Mexican and Chinese places where a serious meal for 2 people costs less than $18. Thats a hard number to beat at a fast food place for 2 and they take longer and can't get an order right to save their lives.
Posted on 9/23/26 at 8:49 am to ElPresidenteGrande
Yea, i think they had to do that to maintain adequate staff.
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