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re: Hurricane Irma - Spinning Down

Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:45 am to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
166692 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:45 am to
yeah Mike's weather page has the model gifs out pretty quickly.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37826 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:45 am to
quote:

GFS Ensemble for Jose



I guess Bermuda is in the middle of there somewhere...
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43444 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:47 am to
Duke you've been extremely informative along with rds and co! Much appreciation around everywhere!
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
15719 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:52 am to
Anyone else curious to how Irma is spitting out 180mph winds with only 920mb of pressure, most hurricanes with that kind of pressure are cat 4, you typically don't see 180 until around 900mb
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110855 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:52 am to
quote:

Another possibility for a wind speed drop and a pressure drop exists if Irma trades the wind speed for overall size and an ever expanding windfield. With more warm water to come it might be the better way to distribute the energy she picks up. Again, speculative on my part.


Doesn't that really bode poorly for storm surge purposes along the Florida coast?
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30955 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:52 am to
Why don't they open up the inside lane going south for evacuees? Guy in a truck and another guy on a trike, they DNGAF
quote:

WPTV Traffic @wptvtraffic NEW: Bumper-to-Bumper near Becker Rd. on the Turnpike

Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22765 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:53 am to
St. Martin could get hit again. Unreal. Won't be a direct hit from a Cat 5 but not exactly comforting with all of that debris everywhere.
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:53 am to
quote:

don't think you will hear the media discuss it though. They don't want people to become unglued to the tv.





Posted by buffbraz
Member since Nov 2005
5742 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:58 am to
Any chance the eyewall skirts north of Turks and Caicos with the more NW movement?
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43444 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:58 am to
Damn I would of thought they had bigger road systems for all those people in one area.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 10:00 am to
HURRICANE WATCHES UP FOR SOUTH FLORIDA AND THE KEYS



...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS HURRICANE IRMA HEADING FOR THE TURKS AND
CAICOS ISLANDS...
...HURRICANE AND STORM SURGE WATCH ARE IN EFFECT FOR PORTIONS OF
SOUTH FLORIDA AND THE FLORIDA KEYS...


SUMMARY OF 1100 AM AST...1500 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...20.4N 69.7W
ABOUT 75 MI...125 KM ENE OF PUERTO PLATA DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
ABOUT 120 MI...190 KM SE OF GRAND TURK ISLAND
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...175 MPH...280 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 290 DEGREES AT 16 MPH...26 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...921 MB...27.20 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

A Storm Surge Watch has been issued for the Florida peninsula from
Jupiter Inlet southward and around the peninsula to Bonita Beach,
including the Florida Keys.

A Hurricane Watch has been issued for the Florida peninsula from
Jupiter Inlet southward and around the peninsula to Bonita Beach,
including the Florida Keys, Lake Okeechobee, and Florida Bay.


The government of Cuba has extended the Tropical Storm Warning to
Villa Clara province.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:

A Storm Surge Watch is in effect for...
* Jupiter Inlet southward around the Florida peninsula to Bonita
Beach
* Florida Keys

A Hurricane Warning is in effect for...
* Dominican Republic from Cabo Engano to the northern border with
Haiti
* Haiti from the northern border with the Dominican Republic to Le
Mole St. Nicholas
* Southeastern Bahamas and the Turks and Caicos Islands
* Central Bahamas
* Northwestern Bahamas

A Hurricane Watch is in effect for...
* Jupiter Inlet southward around the Florida peninsula to Bonita
Beach
* Florida Keys
* Lake Okeechobee
* Florida Bay
* Cuba from Matanzas province eastward to Guantanamo province

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...
* Dominican Republic from south of Cabo Engano westward to the
southern border with Haiti
* Haiti from south of Le Mole St. Nicholas to Port-Au-Prince
* Cuba provinces of Guantanamo, Holguin, Las Tunas, Camaguey, Ciego
de Avila, Sancti Spiritus and Villa Clara.
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 10:03 am
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30955 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 10:00 am to
quote:

Damn I would of thought they had bigger road systems for all those people in one area.

That's the turnpike too, they could open up all four loans for north traffic only and make the southbound travelers take back roads. Especially since it's mandatory evacuations
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51682 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 10:00 am to
It is still just incredible to look at this and see three hurricanes all at once. It happens occasionally, but is still always very impressive.

Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15266 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Any chance the eyewall skirts north of Turks and Caicos with the more NW movement?


Your vacation is over man just no shot
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
166692 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 10:02 am to
quote:

A summary of the top six Hurricane models:

ECMWF: The European Center for Medium-Range Weather Forecasting (ECMWF) model is the premier global model in the world for medium range weather forecasting in the mid-latitudes. In 2006, the ECMWF made improvements that starting producing very accurate hurricanes forecasts.

GFS: The Global Forecast System model run by the NWS. Excellent graphics are available on the web from the National Center for Environmental Prediction. Wunderground.com also has GFS plots. I like the Tropical Atlantic imagery. If you select "Shear" from the "level" menu, then click on "Add a Map", you'll get plots of the wind shear that I talk so much about.

GFDL: The NWS/Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory model. The GFDL and HWRF models are the only models that provide specific intensity forecasts of hurricanes. Wunderground.com makes these graphics available on Wundermap. More detailed GFDL graphics are available at NOAA/NCEP. See the "GHM" model under the heading, Hurricane Graphics.

UKMET: The United Kingdom Met Office model. Data from this model is restricted from being redistributed according to international agreement, and graphics from the UKMET are difficult to find on the web. Only paying subscribers are supposed to have access to the data.

HWRF: The NWS/Hurricane Weather Research Model. HWRF is a non-hydrostatic a coupled ocean-atmosphere model, will utilize highly advanced physics of the atmosphere, ocean and waves in one prediction system, providing unparalleled understanding of the science of tropical cyclone evolution. Its output gives meteorologists an analysis of the hurricane in three-dimensions from real-time airborne Doppler radar. It will make use of a wide variety of observations from satellites, data buoys, and hurricane hunter aircraft. No other hurricane model accesses this wide of a range of meteorological information. The GFDL and HWRF models are the only models that provide specific intensity forecasts of hurricanes. Detailed HWRF graphics are available at NOAA/NCEP. See the "HWRF" model under the heading, Hurricane Graphics.

NOGAPS: The U.S. Navy's Navy Operational Global Prediction Center System. Graphics are available at the Navy web site. This model has been performing poorly in recent years compared to the other global models, so it has been removed from the consensus models that the National hurricane Center uses as of 2011.

One other model worth looking at, but not as good as the other six is the Canadian GEM model.

LINK
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43444 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 10:02 am to
quote:

That's the turnpike too, they could open up all four loans for north traffic only and make the southbound travelers take back roads. Especially since it's mandatory evacuations


I am assuming the turnpike is a major artery down there?
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 10:04 am to
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
9251 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 10:05 am to
The turnpike is one. Interstate 95 runs through there too. It is wider and runs straight north. The turnpike eventually jots west to Orlando.
Posted by CaptainJ47
Gonzales
Member since Nov 2007
7789 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 10:06 am to
Yes- really nice jog north. The past three hours moved it N 0.3 degrees and W 0.7 degrees so much more of a WNW, though still slightly south of it. Winds continue to slow down so my hope is we see some weakening, slowing of forward movement, and the progression to more NW movement.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157539 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 10:07 am to
quote:

I am assuming the turnpike is a major artery down there?


The turnpike in SFL services the western edge of the counties for the most part.

The population lives mostly on the Eastern part of the counties.

The roads that will take you from East to West to get to the turnpike are not able to handle all this traffic either except for 595 in FLL but it will be inundated as well.
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