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re: How to talk to your kids about White Privilege - ABC

Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:50 am to
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12469 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:50 am to
There is an inherent advantage to looking like the majority of the population. Doesn't mean you have to apologize for it, nor does it mean you should stick you head in the sand and act like it's not true.

If that is true why do Asians do so well in this country? We have had to deal with affirmative action our entire lives. Less qualified people getting our jobs and being unfairly promoted. Take this crap out of here. Tell a lie often enough and people will believe it. High school drop outs can't understand why a company hires someone better educated and doesn't have a prison record.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35528 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:51 am to
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There is an inherent advantage to looking like the majority of the population.
I'm not sure about this. There are certainly cases where being 'average' is advantageous but they aren't universal and thus cannot be inherent. Had you said "there can be advantages to looking like the majority of the population" I would be inclined to agree with you.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261683 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:51 am to
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The Wal Mart less than a mile from my house proves this statement false. Why? Because we actually LIVE in a diverse area.


Progs see the world in extremes, ie the backpack analogy.
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
17850 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:15 am to
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Whites never suffer because of their skin color.


I've never suffered because of my skin color (white), but I've certainly experienced racism.

My reaction - if someone is stupid enough to judge me by my skin color then I don't care if they like me or not.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6462 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:19 am to
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I didn’t get into my first choice college despite all AP classes, valedictorian, soccer varsity captain, volunteering at the hospital, excellent SAT, etc etc etc. Black girl in my class, who was smart but objectively had a worse application than mine, whose mom was a retired lawyer, got in AND got a full ride. Boy did that experience open my eyes to how the world really works.


I hadn't applied to Tulane. I wanted to go to LSU, but my high school screwed my out of the Valedictorian by letting him drop the class against policy. Had Tulane been my school that would have cost me their top scholarship available to me.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:21 am to
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it does mean our skin color will never be a source of our suffering.


Except when white people are attacked for the color of their skin by black people.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20362 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:22 am to
I tell my kids to embrace being white and to love every minute of it. Absolutely nothing to be ashamed of.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45213 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:23 am to
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I wish the guilty whities would go full Jonestown and show us just how pious they really are
it would be a nice start toward fixing this country
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:25 am to
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I'm not sure about this. There are certainly cases where being 'average' is advantageous but they aren't universal and thus cannot be inherent. Had you said "there can be advantages to looking like the majority of the population" I would be inclined to agree with you.


There are so many different ways one can cast a majority vs. minority dichotomy that the entire notion of privilege really seems like a dramatic oversimplification of how social interactions really work.

If one experiences an advantage from being in the majority, this advantage wouldn't necessarily stop at race. It would go into things like how you dress, how you talk, what is your sexual orientation, what is your religion, do you have visible tattoos, all the way down to the most mundane details. And if we all experience a series of advantages/disadvantages based on how well we align with a majority for a single trait, of what value is isolating individual advantages and focusing solely on them?

Which factors matter for being in the majority and which ones don't? The single variable analyses that these "privilege" conversations promote don't seem particularly convincing because the vast majority of people simply don't view their social interactions through these single-variable lenses.
Posted by WallsAllAroundMe
Member since Jan 2016
1064 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:26 am to
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Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
11927 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:30 am to
This is more a class thing than a race thing.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16898 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:31 am to
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There is an inherent advantage to looking like the majority of the population.


Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
9674 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:34 am to
I teach my child to work hard at everything and make good grades. frick everything else. She will step on the necks of liberal pussies when she gets to the real world.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
4909 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:38 am to
That's confusing, because in sales, ABC means always be closing
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28452 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:45 am to
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Cracker
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I feel so horrible that my dad married my mom and they stayed married until they died. I guess commitment is a white privilege.


Checks out
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85137 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:54 am to
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Progs see the world in extremes, ie the backpack analogy.


The backpack analogy is pathetic. Socioeconomic status is far more impactful, but I still contend that, given two otherwise equal individuals, the one who looks like the majority of clients/people will be more successful.

That shouldn't be remotely controversial either. 93% of white people in the US marry someone who is white, yet people act like race is irrelevant. 81% of black marriages are to other black people. This shite is human nature, yet people will still argue against it. It's ignorant.
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:58 am to
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There is an inherent advantage to looking like the majority of the population. Doesn't mean you have to apologize for it, nor does it mean you should stick you head in the sand and act like it's not true.


Then I suppose you need to talk to them about the dangers of being white and well to do in a poor black neighborhood

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Posted by LSU4eva7
Member since Sep 2013
302 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:50 pm to
Yea more times than I can remember but don't try and downplay the surroundings in the picture.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86562 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:56 pm to
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The backpack analogy is pathetic.


It truly is. I mean who packed the white kids backpack anyway? Could it have been his parents, that provide a loving home and good support and positive encouragement to do well in life? Why in the frick should we blame those white parents for filling the kids backpack as much as they can, and completely ignore the black parents that don't even give a frick if their kid has a backpack? The issue here is that it places the responsibility on black communities and parents to make a change which won't be seen til years down the road but we can't have that. We need immediate answers now so it's easiest to just blame whitey
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10323 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:56 pm to
I’m very proud of the privilege that I was born to two married parents who worked very hard, paid way too much in taxes, and instilled the value of hard work and education all while imparting discipline, morals, and values in my life.
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