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re: How to talk to your kids about White Privilege - ABC

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Posted by Captain Crown
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Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:54 am to
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what people have is based on how hard they worked to get there?



Considering that almost 60% of the wealth in this country was inherited, no I don't think what people have is based on how hard they worked to get there.

Do a lot of people work hard to make themselves successful? Absolutely. Is it possible to be born into poverty and become successful in this country? Absolutely. But let's not pretend that every successful, wealthy person earned it. Nepotism and the good ole boy network are still very much alive and well in this country, and always will be.

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Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:55 am to
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She lives in Madison, Wisconsin, with her husband and children, Maeve and Malcolm.

Probably interacts with 3 black people a month
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:56 am to
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Considering that almost 60% of the wealth in this country was inherited
Link? Also, there is a huge difference between the average and the median. Is that supposed 60% an average? What is the median?

Edit: Nevermind. I looked it up. That stat comes from a recent book by Thomas Piketty. That stat, and the book, has been thoroughly debunked. It’s a nonsense statistic.
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 8:01 am
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:57 am to
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It does not mean we haven’t suffered — but it does mean our skin color will never be a source of our suffering.

(my italics)

“Never” is too big of a word to put in that sentence.

Almost everyone who speaks in absolutes is absolutely dum.
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Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:57 am to



“Well you see kids, i know that all 7 of us live in a run down trailer at the end of the park, but it’s all we can afford since your daddy’s laid off and laid up from the accident. And I only make so much working at the convenience store. But I want to tell you how privileged you are. You are so much better off than any black child, because of your white privilege you see.

Sure, there may be 11 of us living in a rusty shack with holes in the roof and floor, Eating Vienna sausages with macaroni, but think about how much better you have it Than this poor black kid


Because in this country, being white means you are successful and being black means you are doomed. You racist kids.”
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:57 am to
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Nepotism and the good ole boy network are still very much alive and well in this country, and always will be.

I like how you think this is specific to only one racial group
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:58 am to
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Get two backpacks. Fill one with a two parent home, parents who go to parent-teacher night, parents who read to them, and parents who don’t let them get sexually molested by relatives and neighbors. Leave the other backpack empty. Explain to your children that a white person in this country begins life with the filled backpack

THIS is white privilege!
Posted by Ye_Olde_Tiger
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:58 am to
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Some of you people are so racist, white privilege exists, although it is usually not defined very well. Actually anyone can have WP, it means coming from a solid 2 parent family, your parents read to you everyday, they instilled in you the value of an education, made sure you did your homework and got good grades. They didn't just go to school to complain, they went to follow your progress, they taught you to respect your teachers and if you caused trouble at school, you were punished at home too. They taught you manners, to respect elders, to be self reliant, that you are not a victim, you are responsible for your actions, good and bad. They gave you a work ethic and self discipline.

A lot of whites don't have white privilege, a lot of blacks do, we all know who they are. A lot of crappy people were born into wealth, a lot of great people rose out of poverty. I was lucky, my parents gave me WP, the kid next door, didn't get it, he was my best friend until he tried to teach me to shoplift.


Let's start with this - siblings. Why do some siblings turn out successful and some dont? Is it because the unsuccessful sibling wasnt given your hypothetical priviledge?

In my experience, it's often the sibling that was coddled the most that turns out the least successful.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:58 am to
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I like how you think this is specific to only one racial group



I like that you assumed that I think that when I made no mention of race in my post.
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:59 am to
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People that think like this (and use the term white privilege) are racist to their core and they can't even see it.

You ever think it's possible people aren't racist and what people have is based on how hard they worked to get there?




Nice strawman.

There is inherent advantage to looking like the majority of people. There is an inherent advantage to looking like the majority of your customers.

None of that means you didn't work your arse off to be successful. They're not mutually exclusive.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:01 am to
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Anyone who proclaims themselves a victim, will always be a victim.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:01 am to
Same as talking to your kids about the easter bunny.
Posted by tgrgrd00
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:02 am to
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Considering that almost 60% of the wealth in this country was inherited


So now people's parents/grandparents are at fault for working their arse of to pass down their success?

You realize how insulting your stance is to most American's don't you?

You are telling people who have busted their arse to get where they are that they didn't earn it. This is massively insulting and you are pissing in the wind if you think you are convincing anyone of your bullshite.

In fact your weak argument is actually convincing me even more how moronic this racist white privilege stuff is.
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:03 am to
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How to talk to your kids about White Privilege - ABC

Posted by LSU4eva7
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:04 am to
damn breaks my heart looking at the picture of those kids.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:05 am to
We ALL have privledge

Being born in the US is a privilege
Genetics are a privilege - black athletes
Being a student athlete is a privilege- free college education
Born with 2 parents is a privilege

We all suffer some more than others. We all have privileges some more than others.

It's how you navigate that in life to find the beauty of life and define who you are.

This country will NEVER be a utopia.

Shout out to Hispanics coming here by the droves with not even a dollar in their name and making something of their lives. Large scale percentage wise. Family values, 2 parent households, caring about education etc.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:05 am to
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So now people's parents/grandparents are at fault for working their arse of to pass down their success?




That's quite the idiotic leap to make from my post.


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You are telling people who have busted their arse to get where they are that they didn't earn it.


Can you point to where I said this?
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:07 am to
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Get two backpacks. Fill one with snacks, books, coloring pencils, paper, a flashlight, a bottle of water, and maybe even a stuffed animal or blankie. Leave the other backpack empty. Explain to your children that a white person in this country begins life with the filled backpack


So fricking disingenuous. Unequal outcomes doesn't mean any sort of privilege or racism. It means one kid's parents made the right and sometimes hard choices that allow them to fill his backpack.

A black child born to two lawyers is definitely going to have a backpack more full than a white kid born to a single white mom.

Instead of trying to "teach" the kid with the full backpack about his "privilege" (i.e., make him feel guilty about good choices his parents made), why don't we try and teach the adults who aren't making good decisions, resulting in their kid's backpack being empty?

Nooooo...we can't have that talk in America. That's uncomfortable for black people. But here we are, as white people, being told that we need to become uncomfortable so that we can "grow."

frick that.
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