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re: How big is the Sasol news about canceling the gas-to-liquids project in SWLA?

Posted on 11/24/17 at 8:22 pm to
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 8:22 pm to
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Someone knows something.


I speculate Trump cut some type of deal with China for exports.
Posted by White Roach
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 8:22 pm to
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This has nothing to do with oil prices this was an Lng project


It has everything to do with low oil prices. The ethane cracker is at 79 or 80% and will be completed. The gas to liquid facility won't be built. Sasol has been stalling on making the GTL commitment for almost 2 years. Why? Because of low oil prices. The facility was going to turn natural gas into diesel, but it's not commercially viable at such low oil prices.

Natural gas would be the feedstock, but diesel would be the produced product.
Posted by notiger1997
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 8:24 pm to
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Between this and the Shell project that was cancelled


Which one was this?
Posted by White Roach
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 8:29 pm to
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Sasol's gas-to-liquids plant is the second such project to be abandoned in the state within the past four years. Royal Dutch Shell plc canceled a proposed Ascension Parish plant in 2013 after its projected cost of $12.5 billion quickly ballooned to more than $20 billion.



This is a quote about the Royal Dutch Shell project from an article about Sasol in yesterday's online edition.
Posted by Martini
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 8:33 pm to
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I'm not well read on that market, but some large landowners in W. Feliciana are being contacted about mineral leases(Tuscaloosa Shale). They are being offered about twice what was paid 6 or 7 years ago. Someone knows something.



I’m hearing about $1000 per acre with 3 year lease. No idea what it was 6 years ago.
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 8:37 pm to
Lng exporters are looking to bypass Panama canal fees. There are talks of converting a gas import facility on the Mexican west coast to an export facility. This makes economic sense especially for the west Texas gas fields. Pipe it to Mexico, liquify it, and ship it across the Pacific to Asian customers.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 8:39 pm to
Mexico will get a TopGolf before LA
Posted by Fusaichi Pegasus
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 8:44 pm to
Southwest la is fine
Trust me
Alot coming down the pipe
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 8:46 pm to
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Alot coming down the pipe


its a sewage pipe and its shite
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 9:03 pm to
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Bechtel just got contracts for 3 more LNG facilities in the area with construction starting next year.


Export facilities?

WE need to be the SA of LNG for the world.......
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 9:10 pm to
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I’m hearing about $1000 per acre with 3 year lease.


That's almost twice the figure I heard, but they also wouldn't specify the levels they wanted. They got paid for 2 different levels last time. If that holds true, $1000 per acre would be spot on.
Posted by Cuz413
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 9:17 pm to
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Which one was this?


Shell? If so, it was the same thing GTL. Natural gas to synthetic diesel.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 9:18 pm to
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Southwest la is fine
Trust me
A lot coming down the pipe


Also from the Advocate article:

"The proposed GTL plant would have produced more than 96,000 barrels of ultra-clean-burning diesel, naphtha and other chemical products each day. Sasol expected the facility to create 750 permanent jobs, paying an average of $88,000 per year."

I know economic impacts often get inflated when lobbying for tax breaks, but that's $66 million in annual payroll. Half of the employees would probably live in TX, but it's still nothing to sniff at.

Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 9:19 pm to
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"The proposed GTL plant

I bet the lafayette baws are excited they can gym, tan, and laundry all in one place
Posted by Jim Smith
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 9:31 pm to
Sasol is having money problems. Everybody that's in O&G that's worth a shite knows that. It was expected.
Posted by The Great McGinty
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 9:40 pm to
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I'm not well read on that market, but some large landowners in W. Feliciana are being contacted about mineral leases(Tuscaloosa Shale). They are being offered about twice what was paid 6 or 7 years ago. Someone knows something.


My lease ends at the end of this year. I only have 10acres in E.Feliciana and got a check for about $3800 3 years ago and don't believe they have ever pumped a drop. Wouldn't mind seeing that check double.!
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 9:50 pm to
It would have been great if they built it but it's been known for a while they weren't going to unless oil prices magically doubles over night. And sasol is really big into refining with their south Africa plants so like others they are not rolling in the money.

Swla will be fine but like you said 66 million in payroll is nothing to sneeze at.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 11/24/17 at 10:56 pm to
There’s 3-4 LNG facilities being proposed. Also, a $3B come to methane facility on the ship channel in the future.

There’s plenty of work going on. This is just one portion that got the axe.
Posted by sigsauer
LA
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/25/17 at 12:13 am to
Is Bridgett still over there?
I knew her when she was
well little.
Posted by SeabrookTiger
Seabrook, TX
Member since Dec 2007
1001 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 12:50 am to
There's tons of work in the Lake Charles area. Just one project that got put aside for a while. The construction side won't be as hurt as you think.

The technology side of it is depressing though, that was going to be a solid step forward.
This post was edited on 11/25/17 at 12:51 am
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