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re: Helene - Recovery Begins...Devastating Flash Flooding in Western NC and Eastern TN
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:11 pm to wareaglepete
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:11 pm to wareaglepete
This is really an incredible setup. Helene’s impact (in combination with the ongoing trough/upper low) is going to extend so far beyond the coast. To think that some of the worst impacts of a hurricane will be in the mountains of northern Georgia and North Carolina is crazy.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:12 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
quote:I was just looking at that. Looks like max gust was 93 knots an hour ago and 25' wave height at only 8second period just in front of the eye. That's freaking nuts in that shallow of water
There’s a buoy on the west side of the eye gusting to 100 mph.
NDBC - Station - 42036

Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:12 pm to real turf fan
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Biltmore House is up above and adjacent to the French Broad. The flood in the early 1900s wiped out the huge and (from their offerings) excellent Nursery that they ran down on the river bottom lands. The destruction was so bad they abandoned any thought of rebuilding.
If you are familiar with the granite balds near Lake Lure (reminds me of Yosemite), I wonder if this kind of storm is what it takes to keep soil from accumulating long term on the balds.
Very interesting information. I am familiar with it, we ran a couple hundred men on a jobsite throughout the French Broad basin, and I'm "aware" of the granite balds from seeing them (and they are magnificent), but that's about it. Your ponderings about these type events seems like a plausible one.
I mean I hope the damn thing peters out by 7:30 CT and turns back around into a fish storm, but it won't. With a background in soil and water engineering, it's going to be very interesting in a scientifically significant way (albeit under terrible circumstances) to see what a flood of this magnitude does geologically to that terrain and ecosystem if God forbid it crests anywhere near 10ft. higher than the historical record. That's especially so given man's footprint altering the ecology and terrain in the way that we do. That will do nothing if not exacerbate the extremity of the event, and thereby exacerbate the loss of life and property.
People who aren't privy to flooding in mountainous terrain or flood modeling cannot fathom how violent a flood event like this would be throughout drainages in terrain like this. I've already got my pages saved to keep an eye on all the river levels in those watersheds. God help all our fellow countrymen.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:12 pm to slackster
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:12 pm to slackster
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You say that but everyone and their sisters were screaming how historically wide of a wind field this would be and it simply isn't
Yeah the center formed and it'll be intense in Perry, but the mark was missed
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You say that but everyone and their sisters were screaming how historically wide of a wind field this would be and it simply isn't
Yeah the center formed and it'll be intense in Perry, but the mark was missed
This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:13 pm to BigBro
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oh that guys gonna die.. I’m not watching an idiot kill himself
oh, he's a shithead, just looked at his twitter. he should stay in the tent
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:14 pm to Delacroix22
Damn, looks like Perry, FL is going to take a big hit. It’s been hit pretty hard the last few years. Used to spend a lot of time there as a kid, family is gone but still have some friends there. Not sure Perry can handle another bad storm
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:14 pm to Hangit
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he is NOAA42.![]()
Naw baw, that’s a NOAA plane.
The one I posted was a dude in his private jet.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:14 pm to SeeeeK
He looks like he’s on the patio in a building. I’m sure he’ll be fine.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:15 pm to DVinBR
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Rough year in Tallahassee
Hurricane may cause less damage than their football team.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:15 pm to NorthEndZone
Buoy is in the SW quadrant of eyewall - generally the weakest section of storm

This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:15 pm to TheosDeddy
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but the mark was missed
What "mark" was missed?
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:15 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
I’m guessing we will see extreme wind warnings with this one?
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:16 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
I was a child when Opal caused some bad storms in Atlanta while I lived there
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:17 pm to TheosDeddy
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You say that but everyone and their sisters were screaming how historically wide of a wind field this would be and it simply isn't
Yeah the center formed and it'll be intense in Perry, but the mark was missed
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TheosDeddy

Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:17 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
More people died from Camille in Virginia and West Virginia than at landfall at the mouth of the Mississippi and the subsequent one in Waveland. This is going to be similar.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:18 pm to Delacroix22
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I was a child when Opal caused some bad storms in Atlanta while I lived there
Was working all night in Powder Springs when it came through. It was something.
This looks like it will be way worse.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:19 pm to glassman
Lightning is pretty much constant in the eyewall now. It ain't checking up at all.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:21 pm to LegendInMyMind
My heart goes out to all yall Florida Baws that stayed! May God be with yall.
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