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re: Helene - Recovery Begins...Devastating Flash Flooding in Western NC and Eastern TN

Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:11 pm to
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51702 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:11 pm to
This is really an incredible setup. Helene’s impact (in combination with the ongoing trough/upper low) is going to extend so far beyond the coast. To think that some of the worst impacts of a hurricane will be in the mountains of northern Georgia and North Carolina is crazy.
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
14297 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:12 pm to
Cedar Key

Posted by Antib551
Houma, LA
Member since Dec 2018
1407 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:12 pm to
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There’s a buoy on the west side of the eye gusting to 100 mph.
I was just looking at that. Looks like max gust was 93 knots an hour ago and 25' wave height at only 8second period just in front of the eye. That's freaking nuts in that shallow of water

NDBC - Station - 42036

Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
3155 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:12 pm to
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Biltmore House is up above and adjacent to the French Broad. The flood in the early 1900s wiped out the huge and (from their offerings) excellent Nursery that they ran down on the river bottom lands. The destruction was so bad they abandoned any thought of rebuilding.

If you are familiar with the granite balds near Lake Lure (reminds me of Yosemite), I wonder if this kind of storm is what it takes to keep soil from accumulating long term on the balds.


Very interesting information. I am familiar with it, we ran a couple hundred men on a jobsite throughout the French Broad basin, and I'm "aware" of the granite balds from seeing them (and they are magnificent), but that's about it. Your ponderings about these type events seems like a plausible one.

I mean I hope the damn thing peters out by 7:30 CT and turns back around into a fish storm, but it won't. With a background in soil and water engineering, it's going to be very interesting in a scientifically significant way (albeit under terrible circumstances) to see what a flood of this magnitude does geologically to that terrain and ecosystem if God forbid it crests anywhere near 10ft. higher than the historical record. That's especially so given man's footprint altering the ecology and terrain in the way that we do. That will do nothing if not exacerbate the extremity of the event, and thereby exacerbate the loss of life and property.

People who aren't privy to flooding in mountainous terrain or flood modeling cannot fathom how violent a flood event like this would be throughout drainages in terrain like this. I've already got my pages saved to keep an eye on all the river levels in those watersheds. God help all our fellow countrymen.
Posted by TheosDeddy
Member since May 2024
1468 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:12 pm to
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You say that but everyone and their sisters were screaming how historically wide of a wind field this would be and it simply isn't

Yeah the center formed and it'll be intense in Perry, but the mark was missed
This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 7:15 pm
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:13 pm to
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oh that guys gonna die.. I’m not watching an idiot kill himself


oh, he's a shithead, just looked at his twitter. he should stay in the tent
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19485 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:14 pm to
Damn, looks like Perry, FL is going to take a big hit. It’s been hit pretty hard the last few years. Used to spend a lot of time there as a kid, family is gone but still have some friends there. Not sure Perry can handle another bad storm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177315 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:14 pm to
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he is NOAA42.

Naw baw, that’s a NOAA plane.

The one I posted was a dude in his private jet.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18520 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:14 pm to
He looks like he’s on the patio in a building. I’m sure he’ll be fine.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109244 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:15 pm to
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Rough year in Tallahassee


Hurricane may cause less damage than their football team.
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
14297 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:15 pm to
Buoy is in the SW quadrant of eyewall - generally the weakest section of storm

This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 7:18 pm
Posted by RummelTiger
Official TD Sauces Club Member
Member since Aug 2004
93625 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:15 pm to
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but the mark was missed


What "mark" was missed?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41051 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:15 pm to
I’m guessing we will see extreme wind warnings with this one?
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
4537 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:16 pm to
I was a child when Opal caused some bad storms in Atlanta while I lived there
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33491 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

You say that but everyone and their sisters were screaming how historically wide of a wind field this would be and it simply isn't

Yeah the center formed and it'll be intense in Perry, but the mark was missed


quote:

TheosDeddy



Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
118265 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:17 pm to
More people died from Camille in Virginia and West Virginia than at landfall at the mouth of the Mississippi and the subsequent one in Waveland. This is going to be similar.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18520 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:18 pm to
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I was a child when Opal caused some bad storms in Atlanta while I lived there


Was working all night in Powder Springs when it came through. It was something.

This looks like it will be way worse.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75132 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:19 pm to
Lightning is pretty much constant in the eyewall now. It ain't checking up at all.
Posted by LSUDUCKMAN67
DTB
Member since Sep 2020
1649 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:21 pm to
My heart goes out to all yall Florida Baws that stayed! May God be with yall.

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