re: Flu shot poll

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S. stick it in your arse

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I was walking around the Christmas section at my local Walmart tonight and was surprised at all the Christmas merchandise that lacked a flared base.

Badge502 might need to do a PSA video on the new Christmas arse pokers available at your local Walmart.

One of the new items was a pipe cleaner mini Christmas tree.

What am I missing?

Results Among 53402 employees, 43920 (82.2%) were vaccinated by the end of the study. Influenza occurred in 1130 (2.12%) during the study. The cumulative incidence of influenza was similar for the vaccinated and unvaccinated states early, but over time the cumulative incidence of influenza increased more rapidly among the vaccinated than the unvaccinated. In a multivariable Cox proportional hazards regression analysis, the risk of influenza was not significantly different during periods when influenza activity was low (HR, .70; 95% C.I., .42 - 1.15; P = .15) or medium (HR, 1.20; 95% C.I., .86 - 1.67; P = .28), but was significantly higher for the vaccinated state than the unvaccinated state when influenza activity was high (HR, 1.33; 95% C.I., 1.07 - 1.64; P = .009).

Conclusions This study was unable to find a protective influence of influenza vaccination among working-aged adults during the 2024-2025 respiratory viral season and found that influenza vaccination was associated with a higher risk of influenza when influenza activity was high.

Summary Among 53402 working-aged Cleveland Clinic employees, we were unable to find a protective influence of influenza vaccination during the 2024-2025 respiratory viral season and found a significantly higher risk of influenza with vaccination when influenza activity was high.

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and found that influenza vaccination was associated with a higher risk of influenza when influenza activity was high

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Did the vaccinated have more contact with influenza patients than say a bunch of office workers who turned down the vaccine at a higher rate?

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But to say your body has no idea how to fight something off ??

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You said earlier that you're no immunologist, and respectfully it shows. There's a big difference in the immune response when you're first exposed to a pathogen and when you're exposed to it again. First time the response is a lot longer because your immune system literally has no idea to fight it off and it's trying to figure it out. A lot of the times, it will fight it off, but sometimes the infection disseminates and takes over. That's why a shite ton of natives were wiped out by smallpox when the Americas were colonized. That's why new flu strains are usually pretty deadly. The human body is great and capable of a whole lot, and I get to see how great it is everyday in medical school, but even in a super healthy body, nobody is invincible

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