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Fact or Fiction: The true reason behind the Monument Removal

Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:26 am
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:26 am
Let me start off by saying that personally, I am indifferent toward the statues. I personally feel that the money would be better spent on programs that directly help low income families of any race/creed find employment or job training.

That said, there seems to be two different narratives

1. Southerners want the statues up because it serves as a reminder of their history

2. The statues were built with the primary purpose of intimidating blacks post reconstruction era.



To be honest, both narratives have a strong case. As a Black man, I could look at this is multiple ways.

If the purpose was for intimidation, it failed to stop the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Act (although it did possibly set things back by decades).

If the purpose was for history, it could be argued that museums would be better place to study and learn about this in proper context.

The sad part of all of this is that it seems this is just another ploy by left extremists.
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 11:27 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:28 am to
as a white man, i'm here to say the statue removals aren't going to make anybody any happier.
Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3414 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:28 am to
I see no fact or fiction type question here.

All I see is bullshite
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:28 am to
quote:

The statues were built with the primary purpose of intimidating blacks


Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
42612 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:29 am to
quote:

2. The statues were built with the primary purpose of intimidating blacks post reconstruction era.

no
Posted by High C
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:30 am to
Don't laugh, that Night At the Museum thing could happen.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61593 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:30 am to
quote:

The statues were built with the primary purpose of intimidating blacks post reconstruction era.
this is the case, but southerners have been duped into thinking the statues were built to celebrate their heritage or some other stupid shite.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:32 am to
quote:

quote:
The statues were built with the primary purpose of intimidating blacks post reconstruction era.
this is the case, but southerners have been duped into thinking the statues were built to celebrate their heritage or some other stupid shite.


Yep, maybe not every one, but a solid amount of them were put up for this exact reasons.
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 11:34 am
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24301 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:32 am to
They aren't mutually exclusive. Southern whites wanted to put up statues to remind them of their history of intimidating blacks
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
Member since Mar 2014
11004 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:34 am to
FACT: Mitch is a Bitch
FACT: The other removers are weak
FACT: Nothing will change from removing statues

Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28116 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:34 am to
I believe the statues were built more as an F you to the carpetbagging Yankees than they were to intimidate blacks.

Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23366 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:35 am to
quote:

Southern whites wanted to put up statues to remind them of their history of intimidating blacks


So the statues were built as a source of pride for whites and as a scarecrow for blacks?
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 11:37 am
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
139229 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:36 am to
The WW2 memorial in DC wasn't built until 60 years after the war ended. That theory is fricking stupid.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:37 am to
What do you think the liberty monument was erected for?
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:38 am to
quote:

So the statues were built as a source of pride for whites and as a scarecrow for blacks?
Yes.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
76180 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:38 am to
Tear down Stonehenge and we'll talk.

The folks who built it oppressed my ancestors.




Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24301 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:39 am to
quote:

I believe the statues were built more as an F you to the carpetbagging Yankees than they were to intimidate blacks.

Both are true
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
16021 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:39 am to
Pretty much every point you made is correct. Started as political pandering by the left, with some truth behind their argument. I also believe it serves as an attempt to add another feather in their hat when arguing that most whites are racist. Therefore, limiting the amount of success black in America can achieve.
Posted by Dominate308
South Florida
Member since Jan 2013
2895 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:39 am to
The price of the statues is drugs and rap, they just don't know it yet.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25832 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:41 am to
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